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You can't bypass stun by holding out of it, it's extended and goes deeper if you hit them while in stun. If the attacker stopped attacking completely then his "turn" should be over.

I was exaggerating because everything I listed goes against anything DOA4 represents. Right now we have players playing new build of the game, and not being properly used to all the hit property changes, frame data changes, and all the other nuances that signifigantly alter the way the game is...

Except for the wall game, guaranteed ground throws, holds doing shit damage, stuns being harder to attain, limbo stuns, non universal offensive holds, etc. . . it's DOA4 for sure.

Eliot has a 9 frame hit. Nice! Brad Wong with an air throw, a throw out of his new stance, and a catch grab, more nice. Such nice tools for low tier characters.

The further Hayashi stays away from DOA the better.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

lol Brad Wong gets CB on 3rd hit.

The character with a guaranteed back turn options, a great limbo stun, and a solid sitdown stun. I didn't see DOA4 Lisa in those videos.Except for the players DOA4 habits in the vids, like not capitolizing on guaranteed damage. You're quite wrong actually and that's ok.

Wow you guys are over reacting quite a bit. From Brad Wong being low tier to Eliot being 'DOA4'. Just wait for some steady information, chill, and relax.

I prefer actually being able to see moves coming at me so I can properly react to them vs having to take a guess. Weird, huh?

Eh, I'd rather they just give low holds double the recovery frames.

Brad forever low tier. Will 5 be his lucky number?

I liked how Bass was playing DOA3.

It should be changed to a guardbreak that allows for guaranteed follow ups. Would people complaining about it prefer that?

You should probably worry more about his dragon gunner(offensive hold). That shit is going to be bonkers. Just duck or hold the move, it's fairly slow and you can punish him pretty hard for doing it.

...and it's a very big one too.

Fueled by his neck envy.

Mila will be a dude.

Well that spins my head right round.

That Dead or Alive group keeps fucking showing up when I search for the game.