“Alright then... let us begin the experiment” NiCO General/Gameplay discussion.

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UpSideDownGRUNT

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I'm really liking her moveset so far, she looks like she'll be easy to learn but with similar inputs to Hitomi I can see myself picking her up real easy.
 

SoftCabbage

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I'm absolutely happy when I see pencak silat in. But totally disappointed with the representation.

Of course, my view on NiCo being Marie Rose with blue wig is subjective and bias, but the bigger slap now is to see her incorporating blue sparks.

I expect someone like Diego or athletic girl to be the pencak silat character.
 

XxNoriakixX

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Her fighting style looks fun but her design and philosophy... Like in most new entries in the fighting genre which introduce newcomers, she probably wants to appeal to a certain fetish, ahem, and looks like a more easy to learn character. Idk if it is just me but it triggers and tickles me a bit watching this trend. I would feel like an idiot if companies showed me off like that. If I don't want to learn and practice then I'd probably not play this genre. Also she looks out of place compared to the others, like the rocks in dragonball that are about to be destroyed, or like a guest character from a jrpg. Just like the x3 newcomers. Why not a Vietnamese guy instead? I know many over there who are wishing for this for a long time. /rant over :h:
 

KasumiLover

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Her fighting style looks fun but her design and philosophy... Like in most new entries in fighting games which introduce newcomers, she probably wants to appeal to a certain fetish, ahem, and looks like a more easy to learn character. Idk if it is just me but it triggers and tickles me a bit watching this trend. I would feel like an idiot if companies showed me off like that. If I don't want to learn and practice then I'd probably not play this genre. Also she looks out of place compared to the others, like the rocks in dragonball that are about to be destroyed, or like a guest character from a jrpg. Just like the x3 newcomers. Why not a Vietnamese guy instead? I know many over there who are wishing for this for a long time. /rant over :h:
I don't see how she's out of place tbh, DOA has female tengu, ninja girls, an opera singer, loli, oppai loli, a scientist who's also a wrestler, and many other fantasy type anime tropes. I think Nico is pretty tame design wise, her body and hairstyle are pretty tame and her style isn't over the top and even her electricity ability is liberal and only used from her gloves xD

And I don't think it's dumb to make easy to use characters, it's a great way to get newcomers to play the game when you make an attractive character who's simple to pick up like Lili and Katarina from Tekken and Mai and Naotora Ii in LR. Plus they're hard to truly master so it'll really take decent players to find their true potential which encourages newer players to stick with them. And tbh pretty much every character in DOA is a walking fetish stereotype so Nico herself isn't any different in my eyes
 

XxNoriakixX

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The hair looks like it was made in a different, more modern engine while Kasumi's still looks like overdone spaghetti, for example. I get this feeling from all newcomer girls since xtreme 3, maybe it is just me lol. She looks more like a guest than Mai, Naotara or the VF characters, like a typical jrpg character.

Maybe I am too old with my unbreakable core values regarding the ease of access in fighting games but I always need to think of an old friend who never wanted to learn in practice mode but always complained when he lost. I always wonder why they even play these if they only want easy wins without putting in some effort. I hope you are right, would be fun if she could have some VF Akira execution :nico:
 

Macca Beam

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you heard it here first guys, making characters that exploit a fetish is a MODERN~TREND. nobody ever did it in the past. it was a sacred church free of fetish shit until these evil pornstar NEWCOMERS came and ruined everything

*goes back to fap to chunners' thicc thighs*
 

DestructionBomb

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Interesting stuff right here, Teleport after Kokoro held the non-holdable strike:


Just thinking here, but if you step the bolt into a step attack, Nico could possibly have enough time to teleport and possibly land a BT situation (assuming it truly leaves them back turned as many SSA attacks leaves different characters in different situations so it's just speculations).

The bolt is also a + GB fully charged so who knows, interesting.

Note 2: So I just found out that Nico can teleport after the bolt GB even in open space. For a minute I thought the bolt had to connect to an opponent that gets hit/blocked/or if they try to hold the non-holdable strike, turns out she can do it out in the open. There may be consequences doing it right out in the open but may be useful to get yourself out of the pinch jam near walls. For starters, you can't hold that bolt. If you block it, it's a GB. If you held it, it forces you into a step.

In short, the recovery might be huge so you'd have to make Nico whiff to get a free hit (or even a throw).
 

KasumiLover

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Here's her frame data on block:

She's a 9i btw, and her 6P is 11i and she has a 13i low. Her 5K is 12i, 6K is 13i and she has a low 14i kick

  • P -2
  • PP -7
  • PPP -12
  • PPPP -6(CHARGE= +9)
  • PPPP+K -6(CHARGE=+8
  • PPPK -30
  • PP6P -7(TRACKS)
  • PPK -12
  • PPKK -5(TRACKS
  • PPK2K -14
  • PP2K -15
  • PK -9
  • 6P -11
  • 6PP -12
  • 6PPP -11
  • 6PPPP -6(CHARGE=+9)
  • 6PPK -6
  • 4P -10
  • 4PP -3
  • 4PK -6
  • 4P2K -15
  • 8P -9
  • 8PP -5
  • 9P -5
  • 9PP -10
  • 9PK -5
  • 7P -11
  • 2P -4
  • 3P -10
  • 1P -10(TRACKS)
  • 66P -7
  • 236P -6(CHARGE= +10)
  • K -9
  • KP -5
  • KK -12
  • KKK -9(TRACKS)
  • 6K -13
  • 6KP -9
  • 6KK -2(TRACKS)
  • 6KKK -13
  • 4K -6
  • 8K -12
  • 9K -14
  • 7K -15(FSDS 24i)
  • 2K -9
  • 3K -12
  • 3KK -5(TRACKS)
  • 3K2K -14
  • 1K 13(CROUCHING MID)
  • 66K -10
  • 236K -7(TRACKS)
  • P+K -6(CHARGE= +9)
  • 6P+K -6(CHARGE= +6)
  • 4P+K -6(CHARGE= +8)
  • 3P+K -11(CHARGE= -3
  • 3P+KP(ON HIT ONLY)
  • H+K -7(TRACKS)
  • 6H+K -15
  • 4H+K -11(CROUCHING MID, LEAVES BT)
  • 4H+K2K -15(TRACKS)
  • 2H+K -15(TRACKS)
  • 3H+K -15(TRACKS, LEAVES BT)
  • 3H+KK -15(TRACKS)
  • 1H+K -15)

When I come back to her I may add her actual attack frames if I have time :-D
 

KING JAIMY

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Here's her frame data on block:

She's a 9i btw, and her 6P is 11i and she has a 13i low. Her 5K is 12i, 6K is 13i and she has a low 14i kick

  • P -2
  • PP -7
  • PPP -12
  • PPPP -6(CHARGE= +9)
  • PPPP+K -6(CHARGE=+8
  • PPPK -30
  • PP6P -7(TRACKS)
  • PPK -12
  • PPKK -5(TRACKS
  • PPK2K -14
  • PP2K -15
  • PK -9
  • 6P -11
  • 6PP -12
  • 6PPP -11
  • 6PPPP -6(CHARGE=+9)
  • 6PPK -6
  • 4P -10
  • 4PP -3
  • 4PK -6
  • 4P2K -15
  • 8P -9
  • 8PP -5
  • 9P -5
  • 9PP -10
  • 9PK -5
  • 7P -11
  • 2P -4
  • 3P -10
  • 1P -10(TRACKS)
  • 66P -7
  • 236P -6(CHARGE= +10)
  • K -9
  • KP -5
  • KK -12
  • KKK -9(TRACKS)
  • 6K -13
  • 6KP -9
  • 6KK -2(TRACKS)
  • 6KKK -13
  • 4K -6
  • 8K -12
  • 9K -14
  • 7K -15(FSDS 24i)
  • 2K -9
  • 3K -12
  • 3KK -5(TRACKS)
  • 3K2K -14
  • 1K 13(CROUCHING MID)
  • 66K -10
  • 236K -7(TRACKS)
  • P+K -6(CHARGE= +9)
  • 6P+K -6(CHARGE= +6)
  • 4P+K -6(CHARGE= +8)
  • 3P+K -11(CHARGE= -3
  • 3P+KP(ON HIT ONLY)
  • H+K -7(TRACKS)
  • 6H+K -15
  • 4H+K -11(CROUCHING MID, LEAVES BT)
  • 4H+K2K -15(TRACKS)
  • 2H+K -15(TRACKS)
  • 3H+K -15(TRACKS, LEAVES BT)
  • 3H+KK -15(TRACKS)
  • 1H+K -15)

When I come back to her I may add her actual attack frames if I have time :-D
She seems to be an extremely safe character.
 

KasumiLover

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She seems to be an extremely safe character.
That's probably why she's she's so annoying xD she's a 9i striker, has an 11i mid and 14i low and she's not lacking in damage, safety, range, or even her pressure with her charges xD I've been focusing on relearning Kasumi but I'm gonna use Nico as well to replace Naotora, she's way more solid xD
 
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