DOA5LR Bass Throw Punish Thread

[UncleKitchener]

Frame Data

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() (-2)(-7)(-16) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
() (-2)(-7)(-13) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
() (-2)(-9) () (NT)(NT)
(-2)(-11)(-11) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
(-14) () (NT)
(/) (-11)(-10) () (NT)(NT)
() (-11)(-14 (-7)) () (NT)(T)
(-11)(-9) () (NT)(T)
(-11)(-11) () (NT)(NT)
(:[[P]] (-11)(-11 (+3)) () (NT)(NT)
(-15) () (NT)
() (-10)(-2 (+1))(-13) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
(-13) () (NT)
() (-14 (-7)) () (T)
(-34)(-12)(-13) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
(-11)(-12)(-13) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
() (-10 (-8))(-11)(-11) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
() (-10 (-8))(-13) () (NT)(NT)
() (-7)(-8) () (NT)(NT)
(/)() (-12)(-7)(-8) () (T)(NT)(NT)
(-9) () (NT)
(-11) () (NT)
(-12)(-13) () (NT)(NT)
SS (-7 ~ -8) () (NT)
BT (-3)(-13)(-9) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
BT (-3)(-13)(-8)(-14) () (NT)(NT)(NT)(NT)
BT (-3)(-9) () (NT)(NT)
BT (-8) () (NT)
BT (/) (-6)(-12) () (NT)(NT)
BT (-13) () (NT)
BT (-33) () (NT) (Note: Requires deep dash for punishment)

Dokuritsu-Ho ()
() (-9 (-14))(-13) () (NT)(NT)
(-13) () (NT)
(-7) () (NT)
(-14)(-12)(-13) () (T)(NT)(NT)

Kokoto ()
(-11) () (NT)
(-11) () (NT)

Kozento ()
() (-10 (1)) () (NT)
(-11) () (NT)

Toritsu ()
(-11) () (NT)

Hanten-Toritsu (BT )
(-6)(-6)(-6)(-8) () (NT)(NT)(NT)(T)
(-6)(-6)(-8) () (NT)(NT)(T)
(-6)(-8) () (NT)(T)
(-8) () (T)

&
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() (-2)(-7)(-16) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
() (-2)(-7)(-13) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
() (-2)(-9) () (NT)(NT)
(-2)(-11)(-11) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
(-14) () (NT)
(/) (-11)(-10) () (NT)(NT)
() (-11)(-14 (-7)) () (NT)(T)
(-11)(-9) () (NT)(T)
(-11)(-11) () (NT)(NT)
(:[[P]] (-11)(-11 (+3)) () (NT)(NT)
(-15) () (NT)
() (-10)(-2 (+1))(-13) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
(-13) () (NT)
(-34)(-12)(-13) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
(-11)(-12)(-13) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
() (-10 (-8))(-11)(-11) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
() (-10 (-8))(-13) () (NT)(NT)
(-9) () (NT)
(-11) () (NT)
(-12)(-13) () (NT)(NT)
BT (-3)(-13)(-9) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
BT (-3)(-13)(-8)(-14) () (NT)(NT)(NT)(NT)
BT (-3)(-9) () (NT)(NT)
BT (/) (-6)(-12) () (NT)(NT)
BT (-13) () (NT)
BT (-33) () (NT) (Note: Requires deep dash for punishment)

Dokuritsu-Ho ()
() (-9 (-14))(-13) () (NT)(NT)
(-13) () (NT)
(-14)(-12)(-13) () (T)(NT)(NT)

Kokoto ()
(-11) () (NT)
(-11) () (NT)

Kozento ()
() (-10 (1)) () (NT)
(-11) () (NT)

Toritsu ()
(-11) () (NT)

&
​

() (-2)(-7)(-16) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
() (-2)(-7)(-13) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
(-14) () (NT)
() (-11)(-14 (-7)) () (NT)(T)
(-15) () (NT)
() (-10)(-2 (+1))(-13) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
(-13) () (NT)
(-34)(-12)(-13) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
(-11)(-12)(-13) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
() (-10 (-8))(-13) () (NT)(NT)
(-12)(-13) () (NT)(NT)
BT (-3)(-13)(-8)(-14) () (NT)(NT)(NT)(NT)
BT (/) (-6)(-12) () (NT)(NT)
BT (-13) () (NT)

Dokuritsu-Ho ()
() (-9 (-14))(-13) () (NT)(NT)
(-13) () (NT)
(-14)(-12)(-13) () (T)(NT)(NT)

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() (-11)(-5) () (NT)(NT) (Note: Guaranteed punishment on BT opponent)
(-6) () (NT)
(-13)(-5) () (NT)(T)
(-3)(-6) () (NT)(NT)
(-5)(-5)(-5) () (T)(T)(T)
()... (-7)(-13)(-6) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
BT (-11)(-6) () (T)(T)
BT (-6)(-5) () (NT)(T)
BT (-5) () (T)
BT (-3)(-6) () (NT)(NT)

Dokuritsu-Ho ()
(-6) () (NT)
(-6) () (T)
() (-14)(-6 (-33)) () (T)(T)

Kozento ()
(-11)(-6) () (T)(T)

& ​

() (-2)(-7)(-17 (-26)) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
Running / (-3 ~ -5 (-5 ~ -8)) () (NT) (Note: Actually hard to make this safe, so you should always attempt to go for the punish)
(/)() (-12)(-12)(-15) () (T)(T)(NT)
()() (-10)(-2 (+1))(-13 (-10)) () (NT)(NT)(T)
WR (-10)(-10) () (NT)(NT) (Note: Cannot be sidestepped due to number of hits. Only punish after forth kick)
(-34)(-5) () (NT)(NT)
(-11)(-5) () (NT)(NT)
Running/ (-16) () (NT)
(-23) () (NT) **
() (-7)(-15) () (NT)(NT)
(-13)(-23) () (NT)(NT)
(/)(/)() (-12 (-21))(-12 (-21))(-12 (-21)) () (T)(T)(T)
() (-5)(-12 (-15)) () (T)(T)
(-5)(-11) () (T)(NT)
() (-5)(-5)(-12 (-15)) () (T)(T)(T)
(-5)(-5)(-11) () (T)(T)(NT)
(-4 ~ -6) () (NT) (Note: punish on deep hit)
(-4 ~ -6) () (NT) (Note: punish on deep hit. Usually it's very consistent and easy to punish)
BT (-3)(-13)(-8)(-15) () (NT)(NT)(NT)(T)
BT () (-12)(-15) () (T)(NT)
BT (-6)(-16) () (NT)(NT)
BT (-15) () (NT)
BT (-5) () (NT)

Dokuritsu-Ho ()
(-20) () (NT)

Kokoto ()
(-5) () (NT)
(-9) () (T)
(-15) () (NT)

Kozento ()
() (-9 (-6)) () (NT)
(-16) () (NT)

Toritsu ()
(-12) () (T)
(-6)(-6)(-6)(-6) () (NT)(NT)(NT)(T)
(-6)(-6)(-6) () (NT)(NT)(T)
(-6)(-6) () (NT)(T)
(-6) () (T)

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(-2)(-7)(-23) () (NT)(NT)(NT) (Note: requires a dash before punishment)
(/) (-11)(-23) () (NT)(NT) (Note: requires a dash before punishment)
WR (-10)(-10) () (NT)(NT) (Note: Use OH after the first two kicks)
Running/ (-16) () (NT)

Dokuritsu-Ho ()
()() (-9 (-14))(-9 (-14))(-23) () (NT)(NT)(NT) (Note: requires a dash before punishment)
(-20) () (NT)

Kokoto ()
(-15) () (NT)

Kozento ()
(-16) () (NT)

Toritsu ()
(-12) () (T)

Strike Punishment​

Punishable by ​

() (-2)(-7)(-16) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
(-14) () (NT)
(-15) () (NT)
BT (-3)(-13)(-8)(-14) () (NT)(NT)(NT)(NT)

Guaranteed on a BT opponent:​

() (-2)(-7)(-16) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
() (-10)(-2 (+1))(-13) () (NT)(NT)(NT)
BT (-3)(-13)(-8)(-14) () (NT)(NT)(NT)(NT)

Dokuritsu-Ho ()
() (-9 (-14))(-13) () (NT)(NT)

Other​

(/)() (-12)(-12)(-22) () (T)(T)(NT)


BT () (-12)(-22) () (T)(NT)


BT (-33) () (NT)
Anything from or dash into grabs, including the running grab and TFBB if buffered right.

 

[UncleKitchener]

I'm done. This is something I hope I won't have to do again at this scale, but it was still worth it since I can claim I've seen every single move in the game.

 

[Lulu]

I'm done. This is something I hope I won't have to do again at this scale, but it was still worth it since I can claim I've seen every single move in the game.

Well Done, Man !!!

I wanted to be the first to congratulate you.

 

[UncleKitchener]

http://teamninja-studio.com/doa5/lastround/us/info_ver.1.04.html

I'll update the list to comply with the patch once I get my machine updated.

 

[UncleKitchener]

I realise that I overlooked some of Honoka's moves, so I'll be updating her list along with the patch changes once I'm done moving house.

Other than that, I think the list is done for now until the next patch or if I decide to make some weird mega thread thing for everyone, though honestly I don't know if anyone would help me with that (not being pessimistic, just factual).

A lot can be done with this format, though it depends if players actually end up using it. Should I change the format or add some colour coding? Maybe people didn't really care mainly because it was a list compiled solely for a very unpopular character. Or is it the fact that each move isn't accompanies by an image or gif to spoon feed the reader.

One idea I have is to maybe add horizontal borders over punishment categories and colour code character specific stances. One thing I don't want to do however is to bloat up the existing lists. Thankfully most characters in the game aren't grapplers and their lists could either end up being shorter. I could also go for a list which ends up being universal for the whole cast which'll make my job easier.

 

[Matt Ponton]

current format is fine

 

[UncleKitchener]

The list is now complete.

http://www.freestepdodge.com/threads/the-throw-punish-megathread.6064/

The format will be moved onto the thread above so that it can be turned into a universal list.

 

[charisma]

The project is now finished and the entire cast and their possible punishment options are explored. While this may seem like a definite list, it may contain errors. In case you notice any issues or misinformation, please let me know in the thread.

Character List

Punishment Tools

There is no Rig data!!

 

[The ManBay]

I made an account just so I could come on and say that this is great. I can tell you obviously put crazy amounts of effort into this, and I'm glad you did. Characters like Bass and Bayman need more love.