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XZero264

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BRB starting my PS3 for the first time in two weeks.

From Facebook:

Status Update
By Dark Souls
Check the chest in the basement of the Majula mansion today to find a special gift from the Dark Souls II team to celebrate the announcement of the LOST CROWNS DLC Trilogy.

Look again next week and keep an eye out for future gifts from the team to help with your future adventures in Drangleic!

Edit: Forgot I hadn't reset my wireless connection after staying at Mr. Wah's place...

I got 3 Petrified Something. Gonna hold on to those...
 
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XZero264

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That one game video may be the announced game Bloodborne (officialy acknowledged as a spiritual successor of the DS games and so far the only E3 thing I have managed to catch up on).


Also, PS4 exclusive.
 

Rikuto

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Lack of sword and shield makes me sad. But that's not all really, I have an intense hatred for the Victorian era and I firmly believe it is just about the worst medium to tell dark fantasy in.

First, think about common themes that are acceptable in that era. Werewolves, vampires/undead, shape shifters. Generally "creatures of the night" or "creatures of deception". It's a common theme and everything else is out of place. So what don't you get? You don't get elementals. You don't really get wizards. You don't get knights in shining armor (and all the fun choices of weaponry associated with that). You don't get dragons. You don't get giants. You don't get angry goblin or orc hordes. You don't get dwarves, elves or other loosely associated races.

You don't get a setting where unrealistic expectations are allowed in regards to your environment, because your environment is firmly buckled to fit a very specific stereotype. Ash Lake can't exist in the Victorian era, because the setting rejects the image of such incredible possibility as an underground lake forest. The Hydra can't exist there either. A horrible, fleshy golem could certainly exist within the confines of some cretins underground laboratory, and it most certainly will because there is almost nothing else to work with. But it could have existed in the medieval as well.

Your options for that kind of fantasy are completely and utterly bottlenecked into a very strict set of stereotypes. Disappointed.
 
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His Reverence

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Lack of sword and shield makes me sad. But that's not all really, I have an intense hatred for the Victorian era and I firmly believe it is just about the worst medium to tell dark fantasy in.

First, think about common themes that are acceptable in that era. Werewolves, vampires/undead, shape shifters. Generally "creatures of the night" or "creatures of deception". It's a common theme and everything else is out of place. So what don't you get? You don't get elementals. You don't really get wizards. You don't get knights in shining armor (and all the fun choices of weaponry associated with that). You don't get dragons. You don't get giants. You don't get angry goblin or orc hordes. You don't get dwarves, elves or other loosely associated races.

You don't get a setting where unrealistic expectations are allowed in regards to your environment, because your environment is firmly buckled to fit a very specific stereotype. Ash Lake can't exist in the Victorian era, because the setting rejects the image of such incredible possibility as an underground lake forest. The Hydra can't exist there either. A horrible, fleshy golem could certainly exist within the confines of some cretins underground laboratory, and it most certainly will because there is almost nothing else to work with. But it could have existed in the medieval as well.

Your options for that kind of fantasy are completely and utterly bottlenecked into a very strict set of stereotypes. Disappointed.

Man, you're such a downer lol
 

CyberEvil

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Lords of the Fallen is looking to be a better successor to the Souls games. Seriously impressive looking game.
 

Rikuto

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Lords of the Fallen is looking to be a better successor to the Souls games. Seriously impressive looking game.

If the trailer is anything to go by then it has too much character and monster personality to be a successor to any of the Soul games, let alone Kings Field. Even the music was far too upbeat and epic. More of a High Adventure setting with demonic elements than actual Dark Fantasy.

Might still be challenging though. Worth keeping an eye on for that alone.

Deep Down also looks promising, although the premise is weirder in kind of an assassins creed "experiencing the past" kind of way.


But you know, they say big things come in threes. So between these three games I like the odds.
 

CyberEvil

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I watched a demo of the game on one of the streams. There were monsters ambushing the player when he walked towards a treasure chest and monsters getting stronger because the player ran away. Got some Souls vibes. Try to watch a stage demo from the show.
 

Rikuto

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Yea everything I've heard suggests difficult, just not Dark Fantasy. One out of two isn't horrible though, so hey...
 

His Reverence

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There is a large amount of speculation here, considering the fact that there hasn't been much info out for either of those games.

It would be best to just wait and see. Perhaps you'd be pleasantly surprised, Rikuto.

 
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Rikuto

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The two things I've heard that disappointment me have been said and shown by the developers. The first is Victoria-era, the second is no shield which forces aggressive play styles.

I don't see how waiting is going to reverse these things.
 

His Reverence

Papa Reverence, the Ayane Enthusiast.
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If I liked that playstyle I wouldn't use a shield, would I?

Yes but DS was developed with shields in mind. I am pretty sure that the gameplay in Bloodborne will be adapted to the whole shieldless goofiness.
 

Rikuto

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You're not going to convince me that I'm going to enjoy a playstyle that requires aggression. I haven't for the last 20 years and I'm probably not going to start with bloodborne.
 

His Reverence

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You're not going to convince me that I'm going to enjoy a playstyle that requires aggression. I haven't for the last 20 years and I'm probably not going to start with bloodborne.

Negative nancy, Rikuto.
I am not trying to convince you to like it, I am trying to convince you to hold on a bit longer before passing judgement.
 

Rikuto

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Judgment has already been passed. Nothing From Software does at this point is going to change the decisions they made with it.

I didn't say the game would be bad. I simply said I won't enjoy it as much as a Dark Souls game, and I won't. Absolutely nothing will change that, as the ingredients for the game are set in stone.
 
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