Hisis nearly as broken as 3.1 due to the 3.1 sidestep system lol. It's a better step than his actual side step and can hit them from behind or deep stun them with
) from DOAD? I thought that was pretty cool.
Does Hayate still have his teleport move or did they remove it? And what about his transition move (
.. i miss it too
Aw that's gay
.. and no double low kicks unless its mid chain ... the stance that lead to the teleport ws completely removed ... i dont know why they downgraded him so much ... the other 3 seem like they just got alot crazier ... its true he has an awesome sidestep move .. but ... other than that it feels like what made him interesting before is gone ... even his follow up to his .. is gone :/ ...(even though you can technicly combo with almost any mid attack after the low kick .. so thats not too bad.. makes it easier for variety without a hold cancel) throw .. i thought that didnt make much sense either ..
-The difference in actual play is huge!
-Initial Damage? No, Potential Damage? Yes.
-To cause your opponent to whiff, you need to create space. While you have spaced out of your opponents range to hit you, you have created enough space to where an attack that is slower to execute will not get beaten out by anything faster. Lets say I used Lei fang and I made my opponent whiff a simple Jab. On average, a Jab's total frame duration is 26 frames. If I used Lei Fang's
(23 frames) to whiff punish, I have roughly 3 frames to punish. The Majority of the time you will whiff punish a mid attack...which usually have a total frame duration of 35-40 frames. That is roughly 12-17 frames to punish an opponents attack.That is enough frames to properly whiff punish. Also, if you are late and your opponent decides to hold, that is not a game flaw, but you not properly whiff punishing.-Misread the question, thought you was asking about the damage potential of normal launchers.
His
to realign yourself, otherwise he will have a field day against you. I think everyones sidestep should be closer to Hayate's /. Not as good but close. I do like how every character can now evade mid string. This brings a lot of potential to Characters like Bass who was to big to effectively FSD. It would be funny if they gave him a SS~Buffalo Horn and a SS~catch throw. thanks to macros. SS also have the same frame duration as Holds(35), now trying to figure out, what the execution and hit detection are. If they are using the same data for Hayate's /+ (in Doa4) which is 35 frames as is, it may also apply to how SS frame data operate. However, what I dont get is, in past Doa games, / or / executed around 25 frames or so. The Combined SS+Attack in Doa5 is far greater than that. Doesnt make sense. They need to lower it down to like 20 frames just for the SS and add 5 or so frames for the attack portion.
no longer guard breaks, me no likey. They really did change him a lot.
sidestep is still amazing ..is sooo cheap lol ... is soo sneaky ... cuz that causes a little stun on counter/ high counter hit ... and from there its a whole different can of worms..
I can't seem to be able to hold Hayate's
(), (), (), (), and instead of them just becoming stronger versions, the attack actually changes into his new +. It seems pretty useful as a method to get across the stage quickly. I just wish it had more options to it though, instead of only being a mid punch.
It's not. Hayate'sI thought that kick was a high?
is a middle kick in the demo, check it out if you like.
Okay, that hacking wasn't just to spoil the roster and levels. I can confirm that some holds are definately 0/18/17, not sure which, and that Hitomi's parry is 0/18/12. We're still deciphering...
