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Tyaren

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Tyaren

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OMG that looks incredible! That will be so fun in the game. We're very close now to finally getting it.

Found a high quality video of it:


FFXV is a very strange game... One moment it looks really shitty...the other moment it looks amazingly good, like here. The marketing team is just doing a bad job presenting it the right way. :/

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On another note, unfortunately World of Final Fantasy seems to be not for me. :/ I just watched a few clips from the latest Square Enix Presents stream and story, characters and writing are extremely cringeworthy and are either really made for small children...or idiots. I tried to link you to time stamps, but it didn't work. Let's just say the male main character is a dumbass with an IQ of 10 and the female main characer is for no reason raging and hitting people, which is apparently meant to be funny?

Who writes stuff like this? >__>
 
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UpSideDownGRUNT

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On another note, unfortunately World of Final Fantasy seems to be not for me. :/ I just watched a few clips from the latest Square Enix Presents stream and story, characters and writing are extremely cringeworthy and are either really made for small children...or idiots. I tried to link you to time stamps, but it didn't work. Let's just say the male main character is a dumbass with an IQ of 10 and the female main characer is for no reason raging and hitting people, which is apparently meant to be funny?

Who writes stuff like this? >__>
This is very common in Japanese anime, it's a pretty overused trope, but it's fairly common.

Have you ever watched anime ever? or even played a Anime game? this kind of stuff happens ALOT, Final Fantasy XV doesn't have this as much because it's more written to appeal to both audiences where WoFF seems to be more for the Japanese crowd which is also probably why it has a more anime chibi look to it rather than realistic.
 

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This is very common in Japanese anime, it's a pretty overused trope, but it's fairly common.

Have you ever watched anime ever? or even played a Anime game? this kind of stuff happens ALOT, Final Fantasy XV doesn't have this as much because it's more written to appeal to both audiences where WoFF seems to be more for the Japanese crowd which is also probably why it has a more anime chibi look to it rather than realistic.

Lol, I've been reading manga and watching anime since I was a child. I've also professionally published manga/manga style comics in Germany, Austria and Switzerland for different publishers. For a British publisher I co-authored and illustrated a book about manga character design. I think I know my manga/anime 101. ;)
Anyway, the sections that I watched were really badly written and acted. Watch this short cutscene and tell me with a straight face this isn't absolutely bad writing and acting, inspired by manga/anime tropes or not:

The scene I am talking about starts at 2:43:

Poking a little fun at a not so bright character is one thing, but letting him act like a complete dimwit is another. That is not how you make a character and his little faults sympathetic to the audience. In the other cutscene I was talking about he strangely acts completely normal and can understand and mentally process normal speech. But then his sister has a meltdown, shouting like crazy and trying to punch a cactuar. x__X
 
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UpSideDownGRUNT

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If that's the case why are you acting like you have NEVER seen that trope ever in your entire life??

EDIT: Okay, I watched the scene... yes, it's written like a dumb cartoon. Where is this part where the sister is supposed to be getting mad and hitting people? she's rather chill and snarky the entire time?
 
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Tyaren

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If that's the case why are you acting like you have NEVER seen that trope ever in your entire life??

Because it is not just a trope, it is badly written and acted! >__> I don't know if it is as bad in Japanese but the American voice actors are certainly not doing a good job.
 

UpSideDownGRUNT

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It's probably a translation thing, reminder that quotes and stuff are completely different in Japanese in DOA than they are in English.

Although the idiot brother trope and snarky comments on said idiot brother are probably part of the actual game proper, again though, I'm not seeing anything uncommon here.

Maybe I'm just numb to it, I mostly care about the actual game over dumb characters or bad translations anyway.
 

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Well, like this it insults my intelligence, which other very Japanese games, anime or manga don't. Even if they use well-known tropes. They can be quite funny if done right.
Maybe, like some in here have proposed earlier, this game is indeed meant for little kids to jump into Final Fantasy? That would explain a lot...

Let's get to something else: We have some good and some not so good news from the last Final Fantasy XV E3 presentation! Let's start with the bad news:

- Final Fantasy XV is right now running with a dynamic 900p-1080p resolution, more or less stable 30fps and temporal antialiasing on PS4 and 800p-900p on Xbone with 26fps-30fps and temporal antialiasing.
(For everyone who doesn't understand what that means: It means the PS4 version will look okay image quality and performance-wise, the Xbone version however will look just bad to okay. 800p with an unstable framerate and just temporal antialiasing is really poor optimization in this day and age. I really don't know what they are doing over there. Well, at least they are honest and open.)

- Insomnia (the Tokyo-esque city) will not be explorable as a city. It will however be a combat ground.

- You won't be able to freely adjust camera distance.

good news:

- The story will take about 40 to 50 hours to complete, with all side stuff you will have about 200 hours of content. They said they made fans wait a long time for this game and they want the fans to have a lot of content as a compensation.

- There now will be a photo/camera mode in the game beside Prompto taking pictures after all.

- You will be able to partly or completely turn off the user interface.

- There will be post release DLC content. Among other things also new costumes. (Yay! :D)
 
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Jadeinchains

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Well, like this it insults my intelligence, which other very Japanese games, anime or manga don't. Even if they use well-known tropes. They can be quite funny if done right.
Maybe, like some in here have proposed earlier, this game is indeed meant for little kids to jump into Final Fantasy? That would explain a lot...

Let's get to something else: We have some good and some not so good news from the last Final Fantasy XV E3 presentation! Let's start with the bad news:

- Final Fantasy XV is right now running with a dynamic 900p-1080p resolution, more or less stable 30fps and temporal antialiasing on PS4 and 800p-900p on Xbone with 26fps-30fps and temporal antialiasing.
(For everyone who doesn't understand what that means: It means the PS4 version will look okay image quality and performance-wise, the Xbone version however will look just bad to okay. 800p with an unstable framerate and just temporal antialiasing is really poor optimization in this day and age. I really don't know what they are doing over there. Well, at least they are honest and open.)

- Insomnia (the Tokyo-esque city) will not be explorable as a city. It will however be a combat ground.

- You won't be able to freely adjust camera distance.

good news:

- The story will take about 40 to 50 hours to complete, with all side stuff you will have about 200 hours of content. They said they made fans wait a long time for this game and they want the fans to have a lot of content as a compensation.

- There now will be a photo/camera mode in the game beside Prompto taking pictures after all.

- You will be able to partly or completely turn off the user interface.

- There will be post release DLC content. Among other things also new costumes. (Yay! :D)

First thing, OMG that airship gameplay looks absolutely amazing and definitely the best in the series! It just looks so fun. :D

And on world of Final Fantasy I really want it because it does look good and I like the idea of classic characters and locations but I can't lie him constantly being completely moronic would really get on my nerves considering from the look of it it isn't a subtle " oh their just a bit slow" and more just repeatedly knocked over your head.

Anyway the news on XV is great and its good we can know that even when we complete the game that doesn't mean its over since then dlc can come out for it! :) o if the camera stuff is good I'll be sure to take pictures while exploring the world of XV. And the graphics being what they are and it is a shame we won't be able to explore Insomnia at all but it is much larger than the other cities so its understandable.
 

Nikotsumi

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Nooo, Insomnia is my favourite T-T (among those we've already seen)
I hope FFXV will have DLC content à la FFXIII-2. I loved those Coliseum boss battles xD
 

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Nooo, Insomnia is my favourite T-T (among those we've already seen)
I hope FFXV will have DLC content à la FFXIII-2. I loved those Coliseum boss battles xD

You might be lucky then, lol, because this was also a topic in the presentation. I just now noticed that I forgot to mention it. ;) Here's what they said:

"There’s a mini-game at the coliseum in Altissia. It’s not a coliseum mode where you enter and fight against an enemy, but there is a battle coliseum there where monsters fight against each other, and you participate by betting on which monster you think is going to win. So having a coliseum mode in there allows us to, perhaps post-launch, do some extra stuff with it. Over the last three days, we’ve gotten a lot of questions about downloadable content and post-launch plans, so we’re thinking about that."
 

Chapstick

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So it'll take another whole year until PSX to possibly hear anything about it if they don't completely cut off news about it for years like they did XV. Cool

Speaking of XV, it's seemed like disappointment after disappointment. All my money's gone to other games coming out so I won't be getting it anytime soon.
 
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