Characters Marie Rose Combo and Strategy thread
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Fits better with loss counts.
Sounds like an entry style quote that they should've used.
I feel this might be the case.
If we want to know badly enough, we could always grind it.
KING JAIMY
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Found an unholdable Power Blow yesterday from a wall splat. As we speak, the advantage has to be exactly +30 after a wall splat to land an unholdable Power Blow.
You can use any of these two setups:
66K (W!) - 236P (W!) - 1P+K (Full charge Power Blow) - This one gives +30 and works 100% of the time.
3H+K (W!) - 236P (W!) - 1P+K (Full charge Power Blow) - This one gives +30 most of the time, but on other occasions it gives +31.
Only works on middleweights and super heavyweights for some reason. On lightweights and featherweight you'll get too much advantage (+31) and this will not allow you to land the unholdable Power Blow.
You can use any of these two setups:
66K (W!) - 236P (W!) - 1P+K (Full charge Power Blow) - This one gives +30 and works 100% of the time.
3H+K (W!) - 236P (W!) - 1P+K (Full charge Power Blow) - This one gives +30 most of the time, but on other occasions it gives +31.
Only works on middleweights and super heavyweights for some reason. On lightweights and featherweight you'll get too much advantage (+31) and this will not allow you to land the unholdable Power Blow.
KING JAIMY
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Found some more unholdables with Marie Rose:
After 7H high kick hold --> KK is unholdable
After 4H --> SS K is unholdable
After 41236T --> SS K is unholdable
After BT 4T --> KK is unholdable
After 3P+K T --> 6PP is unholdable
After 2T on BT Crouching opponent --> 3PK is unholdable
After 7H high kick hold --> KK is unholdable
After 4H --> SS K is unholdable
After 41236T --> SS K is unholdable
After BT 4T --> KK is unholdable
After 3P+K T --> 6PP is unholdable
After 2T on BT Crouching opponent --> 3PK is unholdable
KING JAIMY
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You're welcome.
KING JAIMY
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No-timing force tech setup:
6PK (knockdown) > 6K2K for +14 frame advantage.
Only works if the opponent misses the tech. If they do tech, I don't recommend doing 6K2K right after 6PK.
6PK (knockdown) > 6K2K for +14 frame advantage.
Only works if the opponent misses the tech. If they do tech, I don't recommend doing 6K2K right after 6PK.
Lady Tengu
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I just realized I predicted her tag throw with Helena sorta xD
Kris Emery
Active Member
Someone plzz help me I'm having a hard time with Marie. When I fight hayate for some reason I cannot beat him when he's aggressive towards me infant do anything. What are some good offensive and defensive tactics to get out of a jam. I know the wonder side step she has but when ppl throw strings at me I can't escape !
YBNDM
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Fixed! <3
Kris Emery
Active Member
Thank u so much
http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/doa5/
http://tccd.web.fc2.com/diagram/
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/835976-dead-or-alive-5-last-round/72550207
I'll believe otherwise once I see a Marie Rose main win a major.....oh wait, there aren't any cause nobody's masochistic enough to subject themselves to a one sided beatdown.
Point still stands, she's Roll-tier and not viable.
I mean, no disrespect to Marie Rose players, just......she's useless.
Except in the tier lists I just posted, Eliot is ranked higher.
Eliot has won majors, I've heard of Eliot mains. XcaliburBladez and one other guy won a major
Wonder why I haven't seen Marie Rose mains or Marie Rose winning majors.
There's a reason why nobody mains her, Japan mains subbed her for a better main, etc.
My point still stands.
My bad on the double post.
I actually like the character a lot, I just don't think she's viable or worth maining. You're gonna lose.
From what I've seen, SonicFox uses Phase-4/ Rachel/ Christie/ etc. and maybe uses Marie in top-8 before getting stomped and going back to a stronger character. Consider Sonic is no joke as a fighting gamer and even HE isn't foolish enough to use Marie when the matches get serious.
I've yet to see him actually win when using Marie in a serious tournament match.
And no he hasn't won a major with Marie. He won Defend the North with Kasumi/ Christie from what I recall. Once again, there's a reason why he switched away from Marie for the win.
Also consider, aside from SonicFox, I have never seen a Marie Rose in top 8. And even he doesn't use Marie Rose to get to top 8. He uses stronger characters.
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Ok lemme rephrase, I've yet to see a Marie player do decently in a tourney. They either get deuced or there flat out aren't any period.
Sabaki like parry - lol just kick, throw, or do a low. Her sabaki is pretty useless and kinda slow
Good mix ups - disagree, she feels pretty slow and predictable. Rush her down with a ninja, or turtle, guard break, and OH with any grappler and she's screwed. Or just turtle and space with any ranged character. Or just pick Rig or Zack.
Safe Strings - which safe strings are we talking about here? Marie with the Minuet P+K that you can sidestep and punish with a raw PB? That doesn't exactly scream out safe to me.
Expert holds - once again, get thrown for Hi-counter while you try to out guess faster characters with better mixups?
So yea, tell that to the tier lists I posted and the players that generated them. I mean 1 standalone tier list, I'll question. Multiple ones from different countries/ communities with roughly the same placement? Can't really contest that one.
Once again, I am open to debunking. But the empirical evidence presented before me hasn't proven me otherwise.
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....You know what? Believe what you want. Maybe someone stronger with MR than I am can debunk you, but I just don't have the patience. If we were discussing Kasumi or someone else I use more frequently, I could continue on without much fustration. All I have left to say is that SonicFox has still put on a good show with his MR and shown what she is capable of, tournament win or no tournament win.