momji needs a buff
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She has a mid crushing low sweep that can be done from strings or standalone. Guess what Ryu has? 2H+K and 1P2K (which has no mixup and doesn't crush mids). THAT'S IT
Momiji has a blitzkrieg of offensive mix-ups, most of which are safe on block. Seriously dude, dafuq are you talking about?
Momiji has a blitzkrieg of offensive mix-ups, most of which are safe on block. Seriously dude, dafuq are you talking about?
vINv
Active Member
what input are u talting about explain
Momiji is fine.
Saber
Well-Known Member
Her 2H+K is only available as is, or with 1PK. Or BT 2K. It's not even considered 'mid-string'.
And Momiji doesn't have that many mix-ups. She may have some, most from her DJ, but they're just 50/50s. Her mix up game isn't scary because you either hold high or mid kick when she's in DJ, or mid P or K when she's in regular stance.
Yeah, Momiji is safe. But a lot of those moves are moves that we don't actually use. Momiji players know better than to even use her P string because of how every variation of each move (all punches) is the same hit level as PPPP (which is high high mid mid).
Although, Momiji players should know better than to even attempt to use strings when playing her because:
(a) She's very much single-hit based
(b) Her strings are ass
(c) Her crushes are amazing.
(d) She lives on stun-launch gameplay.
She's fine as is, but she needs one thing, and that's for her DJ Throw to be an OH to frame trap her opponents if they block Uzukaze K.
Mila
New Member
She's not nearly as well off as many other characters though, and this creates a lot of issues.
Raansu
Well-Known Member
Dear God no...That throw does not need to be an OH.
Saber
Well-Known Member
Momiji's neither offensive nor defensive, and she's neither scary nor easy to beat.
I find her well balanced, but she lacks 'something'. So far, she's not really that unique besides having good crushes and an excellent stun-launch game. She has nowhere near the amount of mixups as regular DOA characters.
I find her well balanced, but she lacks 'something'. So far, she's not really that unique besides having good crushes and an excellent stun-launch game. She has nowhere near the amount of mixups as regular DOA characters.
Fine, her Tenku throw doesn't need to be an OH since it already traps them, but I agree with vINv that she definitely needs a low mix up from PP and 6P. And a tracking move from Tenku.
Pictured Mind
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lolno
Momiji needs nothing ... shes good...
Give her Aoi's stance that autoholds everything and make all her holds do triple the damage. np np
Omegan Eckhart
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Her P string is fine. She doesn't have the ability to go low from it but she does have ability to go into Uzukaze and mid kick which guard crushes and forces the opponent to guess between her +7 high kick/throw and her mid punch knock down. She is pretty unique in that regard. Not all characters have to be the same, she has some very good strengths and some weaknesses to go along with it.
Her Tenku throw doesn't need to be an OH as long as she has ways to force the opponent to guess and not just SS all her options which she has so there is no reason to complain. You shouldn't be going into Uzukaze/Tenku out in the open randomly anyway so if you get hit out of it you deserve it for playing stupidly. Besides, her having an OH that covers over half the screen would be total bullshit. Don't forget she gets 111 points of damage with her Tenku throw on HC too.
A few buff's wouldn't push her over the edge but from what we can tell so far she is a well balanced character. She has fast good ranged pokes, tons of safe moves, lots of tracking moves including an i14 stand alone mid (4P) that is safe on block, a tracking low that stuns on NH, ways to get into her Uzukaze/Tenku stance with frame advantage to take advantage of her mix up options and decent counters/grabs.
She has all the tools she needs at her disposal, and plenty of ways to keep the opponent honest. You just can't rely on in string lows that much with her. It doesn't mean she can't apply pressure it just means you gotta apply that pressure another way.
Her Tenku throw doesn't need to be an OH as long as she has ways to force the opponent to guess and not just SS all her options which she has so there is no reason to complain. You shouldn't be going into Uzukaze/Tenku out in the open randomly anyway so if you get hit out of it you deserve it for playing stupidly. Besides, her having an OH that covers over half the screen would be total bullshit. Don't forget she gets 111 points of damage with her Tenku throw on HC too.
A few buff's wouldn't push her over the edge but from what we can tell so far she is a well balanced character. She has fast good ranged pokes, tons of safe moves, lots of tracking moves including an i14 stand alone mid (4P) that is safe on block, a tracking low that stuns on NH, ways to get into her Uzukaze/Tenku stance with frame advantage to take advantage of her mix up options and decent counters/grabs.
She has all the tools she needs at her disposal, and plenty of ways to keep the opponent honest. You just can't rely on in string lows that much with her. It doesn't mean she can't apply pressure it just means you gotta apply that pressure another way.
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synce
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Not sure how many of you actually use her outside of training mode but she's really not that good. You take big risks with her every time you jump whether or not the opponent is stunned, and the reward you get for guessing right isn't worth it IMO.
Also her sit downs are laughable, her i12 throw is pathetic for someone who's supposed to be Hayabusa's disciple, and aikido without parries just doesn't make sense.
Once the character unfamiliarity wears off I think more people will realize she's mid-low tier at best.
Also her sit downs are laughable, her i12 throw is pathetic for someone who's supposed to be Hayabusa's disciple, and aikido without parries just doesn't make sense.
Once the character unfamiliarity wears off I think more people will realize she's mid-low tier at best.