News New character is Naotora (Sengoku Musou)

SoftCabbage

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Hell, go tell any Dynasty Warriors fan who has played the 4th installment in English(the 3rd in Japanese) and go tell them about the Nanman Campaign and how easy it was on Hard Mode...and I will bet you that they will tell you that map can go straight to hell 9 times out of 10.

You b*tch you got it right on the spot. Damn that was nightmare. And hey, I was playing on Normal. DW4 was the real shit, tbh.

DW4 got the best AI where enemies can throw out combos and juggling us away like asshole, instead of just "higher difficulty = higher damage, higher life".

Btw, I played DW4, 5, 6, 7, 8, Advanced, PSP, DW PSP 2, SW1, SW2, SW3, SW4, Orochi series, and goddamn I can't deny that the AI is getting dumber and dumber over the years. It feels like fighting over bunch of people who don't know what to do with sword and spear and the only way to get myself a little bit challenged is by hitting Hard or Chaos for more thrill over heavy damage. Apparently the Director recognize the problem and is trying to make a way to improvise it for DW9. I don't expect much, but I hope it'll be better.
 
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Argentus

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You b*tch you got it right on the spot. Damn that was nightmare. And hey, I was playing on Normal. DW4 was the real shit, tbh.

DW4 got the best AI where enemies can throw out combos and juggling us away like asshole, instead of just "higher difficulty = higher damage, higher life".

Btw, I played DW4, 5, 6, 7, 8, Advanced, PSP, DW PSP 2, SW1, SW2, SW3, SW4, Orochi series, and goddamn I can't deny that the AI is getting dumber and dumber over the years. It feels like fighting over bunch of people who don't know what to do with sword and spear and the only way to get myself a little bit challenged is by hitting Hard or Chaos for more thrill over heavy damage. Apparently the Director recognize the problem and is trying to make a way to improvise it for DW9. I don't expect much, but I hope it'll be better.
I'll be honest I only played DW back with 2 and 3, then I got the PSP games (based on 5 apparently) then picked up 8XL for new character Lu Linqui. And in general modern games are wayyyy easier than older ones.

Is 9 in development?
 

Xhominid The Demon Within

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You b*tch you got it right on the spot. Damn that was nightmare. And hey, I was playing on Normal. DW4 was the real shit, tbh.

DW4 got the best AI where enemies can throw out combos and juggling us away like asshole, instead of just "higher difficulty = higher damage, higher life".

In a way, I do agree with that, but Nanman Campaign was the pure epicenter of bullshit that even the modern games can't scratch.
Enemies in such waves that they feel more like humanoid ants than actual humans, morale is damn near ALWAYS lowering unless you get 1K kills(which you MUST in Hard Mode, no exceptions), you MUST defeat Meng Huo 7 times(and if you try to forcibly skip him and get to the main camp, good fucking luck unless you got a second player and that's absolutely certain in Hard Mode...and you HAVE to do it if you want Zhou Tai's Legendary weapon) and your commander may park himself in a pool that constantly destroys his health near the enemy base...so you better hope to god the enemies' morale is so low that they cannot do anything or congrats, you now hit an unwinnable scenario).

The funny thing? I would LOVE to see a stage like the Nanman Campaign come back but obviously much more balanced. And funny enough, I played Dynasty Warriors from 4 on, only missing 6(I DID have 3, but only played it a little before my bro's newer PS2 model hated Blue sided CD's so I had to get DW4...and that's how I became a fan of the series).
 

Argentus

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Probably. But the director said he's trying to change the direction of DW into an open world game.
Every time they tried to change the formula it failed horribly...

This is gonna be like Burnout Paradise. In turning to open world they wind up losing the high octane action thst made it fun in the first place.
 

Leifangfan

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I can't wait for this character. She is my one of my favorites from samurai warriors. Although okuni is my other favorite. I'm excited to see this happening. Maybe in the future we will se a fighting game with dynasty warriors n samurai warriors. Maybe haha
 

Banana56

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Strategy? Wut? I've played several and rarely took damage and just mashed my way through them to the point of the map where you have to fight the boss and what not.....Nowhere in those games is strategy even remotely required. If you like mindless mashing that's cool, I just personally find the games to be incredibly simplistic and boring.

Okay..... well you definitely haven't played the game for more then like 10 minutes because everyone who has knows you have to use and follow through certain strategies per mission.
 

Tenro

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Now i seriously admit i don't understand the criteria TN uses in making new characters . i was personally wishing that would at last introduce a "5-speed" male character who can slap kasumi and her clone family and christie right in their face while laughing BUT oh no no no why give doa a super fast dude ? and u can bet this SW chick will be another typical 9 frame jabber oh well :(, but please TN make her more flexible in her commands . that's my personal request because i SUCK at just frame timings lol.
 

Number 13

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Lol odds were are already bad enough for a male let alone a male that is more agile then Kasumi/Christie/etc. Rip 8 frame jab male
 

Darkton93

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I just wanted someone who wasn't even a moeblob, or even another girl altogether. Apparently even that is impossible for TN now.

Remember when DOA5 used to be serious, how they called themselves "a Fighter"? Yeah, somehow I don't believe that they're really taking fighting seriously anymore. At this point, it's not even DOA any more. It's Rumble Roses.

#ImAModel
 

UpSideDownGRUNT

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Unfortunately that's completely fine with some people... hell, there's probably a few that'd prefer that T.T

Might as well genderbend the entire male cast at this fucking point lol
 

Xhominid The Demon Within

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I just wanted someone who wasn't even a moeblob, or even another girl altogether. Apparently even that is impossible for TN now.

Remember when DOA5 used to be serious, how they called themselves "a Fighter"? Yeah, somehow I don't believe that they're really taking fighting seriously anymore. At this point, it's not even DOA any more. It's Rumble Roses.

#ImAModel

Apparently more girls = not being a fighter anymore?

God, this is why people see us as a laughing stock at this point. Forget the fanservice, just listen to nonsense like this.
 

Argentus

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I just wanted someone who wasn't even a moeblob, or even another girl altogether. Apparently even that is impossible for TN now.

Remember when DOA5 used to be serious, how they called themselves "a Fighter"? Yeah, somehow I don't believe that they're really taking fighting seriously anymore. At this point, it's not even DOA any more. It's Rumble Roses.

#ImAModel

Its especially said because we could have had another Helena style elegant Lady Of War or even a female powerhouse. But nope another moeblob with a taken style.
Unfortunately that's completely fine with some people... hell, there's probably a few that'd prefer that T.T

Might as well genderbend the entire male cast at this fucking point lol
This is why I'm against VF's Vanessa joining DOA.
.she's a genderbent Leon lol

Apparently more girls = not being a fighter anymore?

God, this is why people see us as a laughing stock at this point. Forget the fanservice, just listen to nonsense like this.
You.... yaknow what no. You're like talking to a wall. Moving on.

Its actually folks like you that make the community a laughing stock. Ie, the type who just gleefully eat up all the nekkid moeblob girls and bikini dlc without complaint, and encourage more like it, rather than trying to encourage something resembling variety or even tasteful.
 

Xhominid The Demon Within

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You.... yaknow what no. You're like talking to a wall. Moving on.

You know what? You seriously need to shut up.
I'm not gonna go and sugarcoat this because this honestly, seriously need to be said:
Argentus, you literally have absolutely no idea what the hell you are talking about and all you have done is make an ass out of yourself.

And that goes double here.

You just put words in my mouth and in my text and make me seem like I'm the filth that stops this game from being successful, are you fucking shitting me? Did you even see the post you just responded to with happy glee? Here let me bring this up again:

I just wanted someone who wasn't even a moeblob, or even another girl altogether. Apparently even that is impossible for TN now.

Remember when DOA5 used to be serious, how they called themselves "a Fighter"? Yeah, somehow I don't believe that they're really taking fighting seriously anymore. At this point, it's not even DOA any more. It's Rumble Roses.

#ImAModel

How the hell does any of that make sense to anyone with a fucking brain? There is literally only 4 more fucking girls than guys and yet somehow, THAT'S what causes everyone to lose their shit? That the game might as well have the guys genderbent into girls? I mean holy overreaction Batman, do you know how absolutely stupid you guys sound?

But yeah, I'M the bad guy because I dare don't cry and moan because of another fucking girl. How the hell does that ruin anything about this game? That's like fucking complaining that Street Fighter has 1 more girl than guys and now there's 10 girls to 9 guys, holy shit, they are pandering to the basement dwellers, abandon ship!
I mean I don't even see Tekken fans whine this hard over and over about how all the girls fit the KASG-type than the same people here whine about "WAH, there's 4 more girls than the guys, game is ruinzd" for the 15th time.

But no, let's go ahead and look at the rest of your stupidity that you tried to hide behind a spoiler:

Its actually folks like you that make the community a laughing stock. Ie, the type who just gleefully eat up all the nekkid moeblob girls and bikini dlc without complaint, and encourage more like it, rather than trying to encourage something resembling variety or even tasteful.

You see I love this. I so love how you basically throw me under the fucking bus without even bothering to see if the shit you say is true or not. I fucking expected better than that shit despite how long I've been here.

1. I outright stated quite a few times that if you wanted more casual outfits/less risque outfits, you needed to go and buy them, not bitch about it. And guess what smartass? I actually been buying the casual outfits whenever I had the cash and mainly USE said casual/less risque outfits the most.

2. I've always stated that Dead or Alive is never going to go softcore or naked and I would never support that nonsense. If you bothered to go back to the DOAX3 boards, you would actually see me DEFEND Itagaki in the fact that the females should never show skin as that is part of the spirit of the series.

3. You pretend that I wouldn't want no variety in the game's characters, yet I clearly fucking remember saying that I hoped we get Fiend characters or an African male character in the New Character Expectations topic at the beginning or that Nyotengu should have been a little more fiendish but at the same time being overall more okay with how she is.
So yeah, go blow that out of your ass.

So no, fucking no, hell fucking no. You do not toss me under the fucking bus because @Darkton93 says something that absolutely baffles my mind because of how absolutely stupid it sounds(apparently Skullgirls is a Model game too because even though it added 2 males as DLC, it gave us 2 other fucking females as DLC in a game full of females. #ImAModel).

This is the first time in a LONG TIME I've been pissed off to hell by your stupidity and if to you I'm like a wall then to me, you're like the damn kid that puts his fingers in his ears and scream every freaking time Mila even so much as not look like you want her to be every freaking time. So don't come onto me with that childish bullshit.

And yes, I know I'm gonna get smashed and I don't give a damn, that nonsense was uncalled for and you fucking know it.
 
am i the ONLY one concerned about adding YET another new character to this game? I'm not even upset about the character herself but it's just that with every new roster addition comes the necissity for the developers to BALANCE the fighters and all of their unique moves. And we KNOW that balance is one a HUGE COMPONENT/bone of contention with seasoned DOA players.

Heck, with all the intracacies of frame data with the character that current exist i feel strongly that there is still balalncing and patching to be done
So let's add another character in the Mix and add another layer of complication. I know this is just my opinion but just from all the GRIPPING that occurs on this message board concerning Dead or Alive i can forsee it so clearly
 

Xhominid The Demon Within

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am i the ONLY one concerned about adding YET another new character to this game? I'm not even upset about the character herself but it's just that with every new roster addition comes the necissity for the developers to BALANCE the fighters and all of their unique moves. And we KNOW that balance is one a HUGE COMPONENT/bone of contention with seasoned DOA players.

Heck, with all the intracacies of frame data with the character that current exist i feel strongly that there is still balalncing and patching to be done
So let's add another character in the Mix and add another layer of complication. I know this is just my opinion but just from all the GRIPPING that occurs on this message board concerning Dead or Alive i can forsee it so clearly

Honestly, people at this point WANT balance changes for spice of life honestly. Had this discussion with a few people who wanted something to change the game at the very least so having that would help out alot in getting the character forums buzzing again for a minute.

And even then, the overall balance of the characters and the game itself is still better than others in the genre.
 

UncleKitchener

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My only request is that I hope there are no unexpected bugs or exploits introduced to the game by adding this character to the roster.
 

Banana56

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I just wanted someone who wasn't even a moeblob, or even another girl altogether. Apparently even that is impossible for TN now.

Remember when DOA5 used to be serious, how they called themselves "a Fighter"? Yeah, somehow I don't believe that they're really taking fighting seriously anymore. At this point, it's not even DOA any more. It's Rumble Roses.

#ImAModel

Your nearly 20 years late
 

Dacthunder

Active Member
Unfortunately that's completely fine with some people... hell, there's probably a few that'd prefer that T.T

Might as well genderbend the entire male cast at this fucking point lol
I said this like since DOA5 Ultimate, people are finally catching on lol.
Apparently more girls = not being a fighter anymore?

God, this is why people see us as a laughing stock at this point. Forget the fanservice, just listen to nonsense like this.
That person is correct, it's not that it's because of the majority being female it's how they are selling the females, thy are selling them like non-nuded porn. Hard to take it as a serious fighter when sexual appeal is the focus. It's also why this game will never really compete with bigger franchises like Street Fighter, Tekken, Mortal Kombat, and soon Killer Instinct will surpass DOA. The fighting game community don't take it as serious. Skullgirls is probably taken more serious as a fighter because it's not really trying to sell them as sex. Yeah there's some females dressed sexy and stuff, but you don't see thousands of dlc costume packs, and plus the game is called Skullgirls which tells you it's a female fighter. The title Dead or Alive sounds like something serious and warrior based so adding too many "cutesy" females is taking away from the title, there should be rough looking females.....oh wait that won't sell dlc costumes lol. They should rename it Sex or Alive or Sex Fighter or Sexual Looking Fighters. The title itself sounds as serious as Mortal Kombat. The vanilla or original DOA 5 was actually heading in a decent direction with dark scheme which fits the title, but now it's going down hill and contradicting itself. DOA6 might not sell as well over seas, they need to make it a fighter that can be taken seriously-they can't try to oversexualize it again.
 
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