News New character is Naotora (Sengoku Musou)

samuraihachi

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They feel to me like the Japanese version of Assassin's Creed. There's some good stuff to be found in there and if they really took their time to refine that foundation and improve on it in meaningful ways, there is great potential to work with. But unfortunately they over-saturate the franchise and seem to misfire with increasingly confounding decisions that detract from the integrity of the respective games.
^This. While I am a big musou fan and have followed the series since 2004, I do agree Koei needs to step up their game. I mean, their latest game SW4-II just added one new character and survival mode. Would of been better off as DLC. Not worth making it as a new game. Though to be fair, with a hack and slash game, it's not exactly easy to make mind-blowing changes that will please newcomers and veterans because at the end of the day, its still the same concept. You go around a battlefield and you kill shit. It's more of a Japanese Call of Duty (lol get it?) but we fans buy these games and continue to do so because we like the gameplay. We like pressing buttons and we like to hack at stuff.
 

The 4th phase

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^This. While I am a big musou fan and have followed the series since 2004, I do agree Koei needs to step up their game. I mean, their latest game SW4-II just added one new character and survival mode. Would of been better off as DLC. Not worth making it as a new game. Though to be fair, with a hack and slash game, it's not exactly easy to make mind-blowing changes that will please newcomers and veterans because at the end of the day, its still the same concept. You go around a battlefield and you kill shit. It's more of a Japanese Call of Duty (lol get it?) but we fans buy these games and continue to do so because we like the gameplay. We like pressing buttons and we like to hack at stuff.

So would you say sw4-2 isn't worth money? I was planning to get 4 once it gets a decent price job.
 

samuraihachi

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Depends on what you prefer. SW4 has a story mode that includes all of the characters whereas SW4-II focuses on a selected few, more specifically the new characters. SW4 has Chronicle mode, which is essentially a story mode for your CAW. However that feature was removed in SW4-II and survival mode was put in instead. A lot of stuff was taken out of SW4-II, like the weapon upgrade system and a couple battles like Kawankajima, Anegawa, etc. SW4-II has one new character, Naomasa Ii. Not gonna lie, he is fun as hell. He's always in the damn air, its crazy. He's essentially the Ma Chao of SW.

Bottom line, if you care about the story mode for the characters, and also want to do a story mode for your CAW, get SW4. If you want the more refined gameplay + new character, get SW4-II.
 

David Gregg

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Her personality sucks but I like her moveset. It's something different for once in this game which unfortunately can't be said most of the time with these DLC characters.
 

Number 13

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It was more or less the same for Spartan it's not really surprising. I can't imagine there are many plausible ways why a character from a different time period would show up in DoA.
 

Xhominid The Demon Within

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Honestly, I don't really have an issue at all with reluctant warriors nor moe characters(and honestly, I SERIOUSLY hate it when people be all like "I love how she got shot in the face" or hoping those types of characters die because they aren't "badass" enough or won't stop being reluctant) despite knowing how...divided it makes people(despite in general as the overall archetype we already have Kasumi, Momiji, Honoka, Ayane in certain situations, Hitomi, Marie Rose...).

If anything though I do agree that we should have atleast gained either one male character other than just Raidou...but I think the male would be just as bland...see Rig(and even Raidou is literally just an engine of destruction with no memories of what happened to him...). Maybe even Bankotsubo with a revamped moveset.

But anyway, I really do like her overall moveset and have no issue with the character herself and as I said before and again, no one else would have really fit it mainly because:

A) Since they use weapons, they would need a style all their own which would take way more work.

B) Marketing purposes to help one of their games sell more.

Honestly, we can't complain about big, bad Koei Tecmo doing this when this exactly happened with the Virtua Fighter cast and SEGA AM2

If you have your problems with the overall character, say it and just let it die(or lie) and don't make it an enormous circlejerk that makes Brute take the topic down or let it spill into the general section.
 

David Gregg

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That backstory though...

M.I.S.T.
Time travel.
Portals.
"Well, I guess I'll fight in this tournament for some reason."

That's it? For real? I guess it was expected, but still... wow.

I can't wait for 6's story.
Lisa: Hey guys I'm alive...oh I built a time machine...
Helena: You're evil again?
Lisa: I'm not sure? Why the f*** did I build a time machine anyway?
Naotora: that was scary! I'm so very sorry I peed in your silver room!
Ayane: You won't get away with this Lisa...whatever you're doing!
Honoka: Yeah! And I'm Ayane's sister! And this is my dad!
Raidou: (fart sound)
Hayate: You mother f***er! Ayane keep away from that pink haired tramp she brought along the man who...
Nyo: b*tchslapped you? Yes you deserved it and actually should have died a while back. More importantly I'm looking for a ninja by the name of Hayabusa.
Marie Rose: hi desu! Baka desu! I'm kawaii desu!

^And this is what will happen if 6 continues with the chapter nonsense...
 
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SoftCabbage

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They feel to me like the Japanese version of Assassin's Creed. There's some good stuff to be found in there and if they really took their time to refine that foundation and improve on it in meaningful ways, there is great potential to work with. But unfortunately they over-saturate the franchise and seem to misfire with increasingly confounding decisions that detract from the integrity of the respective games.

Actually, musou games are more like Call of Duty. lol

EDIT: ah.. lol.. Apparently Hachi said it too. LOL

You go around a battlefield and you kill shit. It's more of a Japanese Call of Duty (lol get it?) but we fans buy these games and continue to do so because we like the gameplay. We like pressing buttons and we like to hack at stuff.
 

Chapstick

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I can't wait for 6's story.
Lisa: Hey guys I'm alive...oh I built a time machine...
Helena: You're evil again?
Lisa: I'm not sure? Why the f*** did I build a time machine anyway?
Naotora: that was scary! I'm so very sorry I peed in your silver room!
Ayane: You won't get away with this Lisa...whatever you're doing!
Honoka: Yeah! And I'm Ayane's sister! And this is my dad!
Raidou: (fart sound)
Hayate: You mother f***er! Ayane keep away from that pink haired tramp she brought along the man who...
Nyo: b*tchslapped you? Yes you deserved it and actually should have died a while back. More importantly I'm looking for a ninja by the name of Hayabusa.
Marie Rose: hi desu! Baka desu! I'm kawaii desu!

^And this is what will happen if 6 continues with the chapter nonsense...
I want to play this
 

P2p1mbs

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i LOVE her moveset. i just don't like...her.

I have to agree, I find the flashiness of her moves look so excessive and out of place to DOA that it actually works but I'm not really digging her as a character. Still, that cat paw costume has sold me...
 

SoftCabbage

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If you don't like her, that's fine. Just don't go stupid about it and everyone will be fine.

No. You need to announce to everyone that you fucking motherfuckingly hate Naotora, Samurai Warriors, Koei, and the existence of the Samurai-of-the-motherfucking-Warriors putting a guest character in Dead or the goddamn Alive game and repeatedly ensure everyone that you fucking hatingly hate them in the fucking thread talking about the fucking subject that you superbly fucking hate the fucking subject because your opinion and taste are fucking absolute.
 
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