This looks pretty much like DOA2H tier list with Hitomi thrown in the middle.
Official Doa2u Tier list
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Raansu
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DoA2U didn't really change drastically from hardcore. There was some things added, but nothing so crazy for it to completely alter the tier list.
What, like actual new moves from doa3 for all characters?
No idea what water throws are unless it's a joke.
Oh, so it had doa3 level of gravity?
the only things added were slope and ceiling throws. Stages were altered (made smaller than Hardcore's), and the gravity was slightly lessened as you couldn't do Jann Lee's BNB jugglein Hardcore.
Oh, so it had doa3 level of gravity?
Megawarrior
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Hayabusa just did this to my poor Kasumi a second ago.
Black Dragon
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So DOA2U was a pretty balanced fighter...
Raansu
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It's no 3.1 but doa2u was pretty damn solid.
Megawarrior
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I hate him more than Jinpachi.
Relius Starkiller
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Why is Zack low tier?
Hurricane Rev
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I do actually find it very strange that Zack is a low tier. Any explainations for this would be appreciated
Baron West
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It's because the top players don't main him. Which is where it gets tricky. Tiers when done properly shouldn't be about a characters strengths relative to their weaknesses. Tiers should be about match-ups, that is, how characters fare against one another. Zack does big damage with combos, has good lows, good whiff punishing, and he has mind games galore. But the real question is how does that help him stack up against Ayane, versus say Tina? Ayane is better than both of them, but Tina can punish Ayane better than Zack(and a lot of characters) and she has anti-2P in the form of her 4K+F.
That's how I'm looking at the list. Although I think if you do the list based on match-ups it will look different than the current list, and I would also include Tengu in that list. The biggest problem with the match-ups based tiers, is that the players who construct them are seldom equally skilled with all the characters. Even with that limitation, match-up based tiers are still better than tiers which try to examine a characters strengths and weaknesses in a vacuum.
Raansu
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Comparing matchups in a 3D fighter don't work like they do in a 2D fighter, especially in DoA...
Baron West
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If it's not too much trouble, I'd like you to explain that statement. I don't want to come off as rude, but that just doesn't make any sense to me at all. Are you saying that simply having a Z-axis invalidates the notion of good and bad match-ups? Or are you saying something entirely different? I've never played a 3-D fighting game that didn't have good and bad match-ups.
Raansu
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I don't have trouble with them, I just despise Tekken and SC and don't have the patience to learn them, unlike VF5 where I couldn't wait to get off work and go to the arcades and play it when I was living in Japan.