I have been in a similar debate with others on this subject and I really do hate repeating myself.But have played enough fighting and combat based games where all of them do have similarities in game play options to traditional fighting games
*All fighting or combat based games do have melee options.
For example
Boxing games is strictly melee and focus on striking.Yet these games have life bars,battles are 1 on 1, and game play focus's on spacing,baiting,feinting,counter hits, punishing, dodgeing, ect are prevalent in Boxing games as well as many other traditional fighting games.Now does that mean boxing games should be allowed at EVO? By the logic you posted yes. But then again since Boxing is a sanctioned sport and has no SF like special moves it is not considered a traditional fighting game.
This can also be applied to wrestling titles as well. But there are a few eat m ups that do have more traditional figtng game play conventions. Those being Urban Reign created by Namco and Spike Out Battle Street created by Sega.These games are beat em ups at their core even though Urban Reign has Tekken game play mechanics while Spike OuT has Virtua Fighter game play mechanics.Yet these still do not play like a traditional fighting based game.
Smash at its core is not a traditional fighting based game. Its a beat em up/brawler/ with a little bit of 2D SF based conventions like special moves per characters. How players treat the game and how popular the game becomes doesn't change really what the game is a whole. I'm happy Smash as series does well but comparing or considering it a traditional fighting game is just being naive and wanting the game to be more than it is. Like I said in a previous post I was a part of the Rumble Roses XX community and quite a few people felt like RRXX is comparable and can be played like traditional based fighting games. Sure RRXX had a few traditional based fighting game conventions but as whole it was a wrestling game.
Smash Bros is not a traditional fighting game.It has its own unique game play mechanics that put it in a genre almost on its own.Just because the Smash community feels and treats it differently doesn't change the fact that Smash is really not comparable to SF,2D, or an other 3D traditional fighting game. Kung Fu on the NES was all footsies yet that doesn't mean I can compare it too the SF series.kung Fu is a beat em up.
Sounds like you are just arguing to be arguing at this point. So you don't see games like Smash to be categorized similar to "traditional fighting games", but there are people who play it competitively. You don't think games like Smash should be featured at major tournaments, but they have been featured at various points and will continue to be. You admitted to not liking games of this type, but you are constantly posting in a thread for one, talking about how you think it will be "bad". We get it. You've made your points. It's time to move on.
Fact of the matter is a game doesn't have to fit the mold of a "traditional fighting game" to be played competitively, a game that can be played competitively has every right to be featured at major tournaments, and someone with negative views on a genre having negative views on a game IN that genre is kind of a given. By continuing to post here, you are, INDEED, making yourself a troll (whether you care to see it or not)! You are just like the person who argues that competitive sports like Archery, Weightlifting, Curling, etc. are not events built around standard "head-to-head athletic competition" and, as such, do not belong at events like the Olympics. Just give it a rest!!
You're not among the ones deciding what gets featured or not, you're not (seemingly) among the ones competing, and you're (apparently) not a fan. So WHY does it matter so much to you that you continue to comment in a thread among people who happen to be on the opposite side of the spectrum from you? It's not like continuing to voice your negative opinions here is going to somehow "convince" someone to change where they side and start pushing for these games to NOT be featured at major tournaments. So what is it you are trying to accomplish here if you are not contributing anything positive?
* A game having a competitive scene,community, and being popular doesn't change what the game truly is.
* I know about the Smash scene.I even dabbled in it.I live in Northern CA and there is still a high number of Smash players as well as tournaments being supported.
*I wouldn't have a reason to post if any of you didn't respond to them.
*And your proving my point for me. I agree that a game doesn't have to be a "traditional fighting" game to be played competitively.I never denied this.I think where we kinda disagree is how certain communities want these games to be considered or treated the same as"traditional fighting" games.
* So far I have been polite and respectful in my posts.Nor have a personally attacked anyone. I am not trolling you or anyone. Even though this discussion will ultimately lead no where because your already irritated by my opinions in this thread.So you automatically have tagged me as a troll.
* But your right I am posting against the status quo in this thread.So that puts me on the "troll" list of the fans of these type of games.
*I felt as grown adults we can discuss things maturely(which I have) and not get butt hurt(which I haven't) about disagreements. It seems I forgot that I am on the internet sometimes and everything gets blown out of proportion.
I'll just stop posting on this thread and leave you guys to enjoy being fans of the game.Sorry if I came off as being a "troll".That was not my intent. I made my point so I'm moving on.
