Soul Calibur Thread

Mayor-Of-Mustard

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The strange thing is I actually played 5 and THEN 4 (thank angryjoe for that) so when I saw Sophita in 4 I was like "OHMYGOD IT'S ELYSIUM" and for Killik I was like "HE HAS HIS OWN STYLE? OMG!"

zasalamael needs to be in 6 like he has to be he was one of the more popular characters in the votes am i wrong?


omg zasalamael and zack have the same english voice actor mind blown
 

Nyte

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How do you guys think they'll bring the old characters back? Do you think they'll continue from SCV by find a way to put them back in, or, as possibly hinted in Lost Swords, use Astral Chaos to bring the series back to the original setting?
 

KasumiLover

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I think they'll do a reboot, that'd be the only way to bring the older characters back unless they do something with Astral chaos that causes a time paradox so that everyone can return if that's what they're aiming for.
 
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Tyaren

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How do you guys think they'll bring the old characters back? Do you think they'll continue from SCV by find a way to put them back in, or, as possibly hinted in Lost Swords, use Astral Chaos to bring the series back to the original setting?

Pretty sure they go back in time. There should be no problem to tie that into the "storyline" of the series. It's already convoluted as it is.
 

Nyte

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In the text passage in LS, they specifically said that shards of both swords were scattered throughout space and time after they were destroyed, hence why fighters from both times are present. They also said the stage was set at the end of the 16th century, which was the setting of the series from SB to SCIV. It sounds like a pretty good way to bring the old characters back without having to come up with some contrived excuse for why they didn't age. I say set SCVI after IV, with some characters from V returning (most likely Pyrrha and Z.W.E.I., and maybe Natsu and Viola). Maybe have VI take place 2-3 years after IV, allow some of the characters to age and time to pass after Nightmare was defeated (after all, it'd be weird for no characters to have a single birthday in that long chain of events). I think that sounds pretty good to me.
 

Tyaren

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In the text passage in LS, they specifically said that shards of both swords were scattered throughout space and time after they were destroyed, hence why fighters from both times are present. They also said the stage was set at the end of the 16th century, which was the setting of the series from SB to SCIV. It sounds like a pretty good way to bring the old characters back without having to come up with some contrived excuse for why they didn't age. I say set SCVI after IV, with some characters from V returning (most likely Pyrrha and Z.W.E.I., and maybe Natsu and Viola). Maybe have VI take place 2-3 years after IV, allow some of the characters to age and time to pass after Nightmare was defeated (after all, it'd be weird for no characters to have a single birthday in that long chain of events). I think that sounds pretty good to me.

Never played Lost Swords (fortunately) but this makes sense too. That's how you can have all the fighters from all ages in one game. I don't play the SC series (or any fighter) for it's story anway, lol. XD
 

Nyte

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I never played it either because I didn't have a PS3 (not that I'd pay for anything in that game), but I read it online. Seems interesting. The sad thing is that I feel like SC could have a good story with all the lore present if they actually utilized it better. SCV attempted this and it well, failed. Hopefully SCVI does better, because the trend in fighting games is to try to tell a better story than none at all.
 

KasumiLover

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It wasn't really SC's fault regarding the fifth story mode, if they had the resources and weren't rushed due to TTT2, the story would have been much more massive and stuff. SC lost sword's story scenarios were good but lacked depth, like it was basically fighting random enemies over and over and no one really significant which made sense, it was like a watered down version of SC2's Weapon Master mode imo, just less fun.
 

Nyte

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It wasn't really SC's fault regarding the fifth story mode, if they had the resources and weren't rushed due to TTT2, the story would have been much more massive and stuff. SC lost sword's story scenarios were good but lacked depth, like it was basically fighting random enemies over and over and no one really significant which made sense, it was like a watered down version of SC2's Weapon Master mode imo, just less fun.
Yeah, but I feel like it wouldn't have been as good as some people think. Patroklos would still be there, and be as shitty as ever. Not to mention the new characters...

Still, I wonder what the full extent of the story would've been. Since the story was supposed to be 4x bigger, than that would've made it roughly eight hours long (which is pretty big for a fighting game), and it would've likely used cutscenes as opposed to those storyboards (which was done because they didn't have enough time to render the whole thing). That would've definitely been better. What I wonder is, though Taki wouldn't be playable, would she have made a story appearance? That's something I wonder, because who knows what she would've looked like.
 

KasumiLover

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Yeah, but I feel like it wouldn't have been as good as some people think. Patroklos would still be there, and be as shitty as ever. Not to mention the new characters...

Still, I wonder what the full extent of the story would've been. Since the story was supposed to be 4x bigger, than that would've made it roughly eight hours long (which is pretty big for a fighting game), and it would've likely used cutscenes as opposed to those storyboards (which was done because they didn't have enough time to render the whole thing). That would've definitely been better. What I wonder is, though Taki wouldn't be playable, would she have made a story appearance? That's something I wonder, because who knows what she would've looked like.
There's a possibility she could have appeared, the wiki and story says that Leixa, Natsu, and Xiba were on a type of journey to the west to find Kilik I think and Taki is said to be watching Natsu in the shadows...she probably wouldn't have been clad in those tight pink spandex, but she'd probably look the same, Hilde is 35 in SC5 and she aged very well, she just has shorter hair and a more mature face.
 

Nyte

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Even before Daishi and Tago left, apparently they had planned to bring Taki back as a fighter down the line (Tago specifically stated she would return "eventually"). Her story is that she had heard that Toki had once again emerged after his supposed death, and she left to pursue him. I imagine that they were setting it up for the sequel where Taki would return. I'm imagining they would've found a way to de-age her due to the "no women over 35 rule". Well, no use speculating about it now. We're definitely getting her back, and I'm betting they're going to use Astral Chaos.

Also, what do you guys think of the revised profiles on the Soulcalibur website? Sounds like they're foreshadowing the retcon, which has been there since 2013, not long after Hoshino took charge of Project Soul.
 

Project Bokuho

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Even before Daishi and Tago left, apparently they had planned to bring Taki back as a fighter down the line (Tago specifically stated she would return "eventually"). Her story is that she had heard that Toki had once again emerged after his supposed death, and she left to pursue him. I imagine that they were setting it up for the sequel where Taki would return. I'm imagining they would've found a way to de-age her due to the "no women over 35 rule".
Looks like she might get a flashback fight in her story.
 

Jadeinchains

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It wasn't really SC's fault regarding the fifth story mode, if they had the resources and weren't rushed due to TTT2, the story would have been much more massive and stuff. SC lost sword's story scenarios were good but lacked depth, like it was basically fighting random enemies over and over and no one really significant which made sense, it was like a watered down version of SC2's Weapon Master mode imo, just less fun.

Yeah, but I feel like it wouldn't have been as good as some people think. Patroklos would still be there, and be as shitty as ever. Not to mention the new characters...

Still, I wonder what the full extent of the story would've been. Since the story was supposed to be 4x bigger, than that would've made it roughly eight hours long (which is pretty big for a fighting game), and it would've likely used cutscenes as opposed to those storyboards (which was done because they didn't have enough time to render the whole thing). That would've definitely been better. What I wonder is, though Taki wouldn't be playable, would she have made a story appearance? That's something I wonder, because who knows what she would've looked like.

The story and the game could have been an amazing continuation for the series if it wasn't for them rushing the team to release it as fast as possible leaving things unfinished. Viola's story was supposed to be revealed but because of the time they couldn't. I didn't know it was about TTT2 that they released them but its annoying that because they own both of them they get in the way of each others releases.
 

KasumiLover

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Yeah, Patroklos was just a bad character, a bad brother and just badly executed so it makes sense that he doesn't have many fans. Maybe if he had Alpha Pat's more humble personality from the start the mess could have been avoided, but who knows, they can probably overhaul him and give him a likable personality.
 

Jadeinchains

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Yeah I have to say that while I liked Pyhrra I really disliked Pat, Not only did he kill innocent people but he was also so pretentious with his beliefs that he pushed his sister away for what she was. I don't remember but I think he was better by the end of the story but it still doesn't change that he did that. I wouldn't mind if he wasn't in the next game.
 

Tyaren

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To be honest, I don't see many, maybe even none of the new characters, return for SC6. They were all unpopular, the characters they are based on however are (Taki, Kilik, Xianghua...), if the story just simply goes back in time they are much too young or not yet born, there will be some other new characters made that take their spots and spots will be overall rare because current fighters don't come with as many fighters as in last generations. Maybe just about 20. The rest will be DLC in the future and they will obviously only try to sell fairly popular characters to people.
 
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