Doug Nguyen
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I hate people who blame others for there suckyness. Kasumi i not Op at all. I main as her and its pretty hard using her since shes so unsafe.
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Shinigamimatt
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Seriously, if I can count all the times I made an unsafe move and they don't grab me or punish, I blame them for being bad. >_>.
Omegan Eckhart
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If Kasumi wasn't able to take advantage of latency so easily people probably wouldn't have called her OP so often. To beat Kasumi you have to be able to shut down her use of low kicks which online is incredibly hard, people usually get annoyed at their inability to do that and call her OP.
Hopefully she won't be a lag monster in DOA5, people will complain less if that's the case.
Hopefully she won't be a lag monster in DOA5, people will complain less if that's the case.
Doug Nguyen
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What do you mean by her latency?
Shinigamimatt
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Maybe. I never had a problem with that personally. The kicks come out too slow to miss. Every good player I face can punish that.
Black Dragon
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Lag tactics.
PhoenixVFIRE
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Lag. It's one of the reasons why a super unsafe character like Kasumi can get away with a LOT of moves online. The lag(even slight) made it harder to dodge/punish/etc.. her moves because of her sheer speed mix with the game lag and the late reactions of countering and punishing.
DrDogg
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No, hopefully the lag won't be an issue this time because the netcode will be on par with SC/VF. ^_^
It was definitely an issue. Not sure how you can possibly say it wasn't. Blocking pretty much any low online was nothing more than a guess. It was simply not possible to do it on-reaction. It's even hard to block lows on reaction in SC5 and the netcode is leaps and bounds ahead of DOA4 (7-year gaps can do that).
Doug Nguyen
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Ohhhh ok maybe thats why last night someone sent me a message saying laggy ass bitch. Haha he sucked though but yeah i wasnt even lagging that bad. Seemed fine with me.
Shinigamimatt
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I'm not saying it wasn't a problem in general. I just mean as a Kasumi main myself, I never had to worry about it. I could always see the signs to see it coming. I mean, her 1K was a giant "I'm going to kick you now, please low hold it"
Her 1P was scarier for me. And her pokes sometimes if the match was laggy. But I never played in those conditions.
Omegan Eckhart
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I never said her latency, I said she is able to take advantage of latency very easily. There is a reason Kasumi players use 6P2K a whole lot, it's because it works. We all know it's coming but lag makes it so much harder to counter, it's easy as crap to counter offline.
When people call her OP what they probably mean is they hate fighting her online because she is capable of being very lag abusive.
Hope that makes sense, your question confused me a little. Just so you know I don't hate Kasumi, I'm just explaining why people complain and call her OP so much online.
Removing the goofy lobby's will help things run smoother... I hope.
When people call her OP what they probably mean is they hate fighting her online because she is capable of being very lag abusive.
Hope that makes sense, your question confused me a little. Just so you know I don't hate Kasumi, I'm just explaining why people complain and call her OP so much online.
Removing the goofy lobby's will help things run smoother... I hope.
Shinigamimatt
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I dunno. Was it really the lobbies though? Or would a better Netcode just fix it fine?
Arnell Long
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Both.
Shinigamimatt
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I'm gonna miss those dumb lobbies
Arnell Long
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I'm gonna miss those dumb lobbies
I'm not, they were useless, only good for eye candy.
Don't get me started with people making rooms just to sit around and do diddly squat.
In the past I might have agreed with you. However, this isn't the past and I can no longer stand DOA4's Barney-like lobbies.
Traditional lobbies will do just fine for DOA5.
Shinigamimatt
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As long as you can go into a lobby and spectate. I didn't like how in DOA2U you had to fight when your turn came up. Also my friend likes to watch me play as opposed to playing sometimes.
Omegan Eckhart
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SCV's lobbies are probably the best I have seen so far, add the button config menu from Blazblue at the character select screen and we are all set.
DR2K
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Well they'd be right for the wrong reasons potentially.
Arnell Long
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I beat people with Kasumi they say "You only won because you played with the cheapest character in the game".
I beat them with Lisa or Bayman and they say "You need to get a life."
Ignorant isn't something that I argue with anymore, I just say good games and keep on keeping on.
I beat them with Lisa or Bayman and they say "You need to get a life."
Ignorant isn't something that I argue with anymore, I just say good games and keep on keeping on.