The DOA5U "Casual" thread. ^__^
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FatalxInnocence
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Sorry, are you referring to me? If you are- I'm not against the idea. I'm merely bringing up a LEGITIMATE reason as to why he isn't in the game at this point in time. And if you weren't referencing me, ignore this. Your comment was rather vague so it's kind of hard to know who you were referring to.
Derga
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I don't want people to gang up on anyone, but he's being as obnoxious as possible whenever someone even tries to bring up Tengu and his possible return. With haphazard arguments like play Ayane instead or if you want Tengu, go back to the older games etc etc. I have a hard time to believe he's not trying to rile people up. If Tengu fans retorting to his statements makes you hate Tengu, then that's unfortunate.
And no fatal, wasn't talking about you.
Kronin
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Sorry if talk again of Tengu, but being one of the people that started again the discussion here with my links, I wanted say something me too:
I think that I will stop to answer to you, because at this time should be evident that you are on purpose trolling other people with provocative comments. I want just say that like other people have already said to you:
I have nothing against Jyakotu or everyone say me that dislike Tengu. If you say me that don't want him back because you hate/dislike him, I have nothing to say about it, because this is a personal opinion dictated by your tastes. Currently I don't find objective reasons for not bringing back Tengu, but if you find something of this kind not strictly related to your tastes, this can become the subject of a smart discussion between us.
What annoy me, and I think other people, it's like Jyakotu seem to want give fake objective reasons for the impossibility/meaningless of the return of Tengu (how make sense to say that Leon and Ein are more unique than Tengu compared to Bayman and Hitomi? Or that Ayane can substitute him?), more the fact that he seem to feel fun continually saying to people that talk about the character: "It's useless, he will not return ever".
A person asked for a way to requesting him to TN, people answered to him, and everyone know that Jyakotu is against its return: so what is the reason for writing similar posts?
Tyaren do you really think that they add something to the discussion and that they aren't done with the intent of being provocative? No one is saying to Jyakotu to change opinion about Tengu, but just like you said that "team up against him" will not bring results, the same should be applied for the opposite: to say to me, Forlon or everyone that wish for Tengu to not continue to ask for him, will not change our opinion or the one of TN about it (and overall it's a meaningless +1 in a such discussion without a proper content, I don't make random posts simply for saying "I like Tengu! Deal with it!").
Actually I would love the inclusion of all the boss characters in the DoA sequels me too (one of the reasons because I love DoA Dimensions), also if I would prefer a singularity in their moveset and not being almost clones. And like I said more times, it's just this the reason because Tengu should be included in the roster: between all the old bosses he is the one with a completely unique set, a character able to bring variety and uniqueness in the roster of a fighting game: and I think that this should be the first reason for including a character in a roster of a fighting game, not the plot of the game.
Add that he was the boss included in more games of the series compared to the others, and this make of Tengu a singular boss between Raidou and Genra. I exclude Alpha-152 because I consider the DoA4 boss unique just like Tengu, and for this same reason I really hope that it/she could return in the next games of the series like a character always present -more balanced if you think that it/she needs of it - just like the same should happen for Ein, Leon and Tengu too).
EDIT: I was forgetting guys, but thanks so much for the support showned here and on twitter. Indipendently by the final decision of Team Ninja, it's pretty nice to see so much love for one of the DoA characters generally more mistreated.
Like fan of Tengu I really appreciate it =)
I'm not a great Ayane's player, but I assure you that risky maneuvers are pretty easily possible with the purple girl and that winning it's not so easy in the hands of an average player of her. Sure can be hard to use a proper defense against a good Ayane's player (not me), but it's pretty easy to switch the fate of the match in favor of the opponent to the first distraction of Ayane (read: "put down the guard through an unsafe move").
I think that I will stop to answer to you, because at this time should be evident that you are on purpose trolling other people with provocative comments. I want just say that like other people have already said to you:
- This logic could be applied also in your case, with people asking to you to play DoA3 if you dislike Tengu and he will be added to DoA5U's cast;
- Think just for an istant that DoA6 will cut Eliot, maybe even replacing him with another character with the same moveset (btw thing not happened in Tengu's case): really would you accept carefree this decision by Team Ninja? And how would you feel about other people saying you "Return to DoA4/D/5/5U if you want play with Eliot"?
I have nothing against Jyakotu or everyone say me that dislike Tengu. If you say me that don't want him back because you hate/dislike him, I have nothing to say about it, because this is a personal opinion dictated by your tastes. Currently I don't find objective reasons for not bringing back Tengu, but if you find something of this kind not strictly related to your tastes, this can become the subject of a smart discussion between us.
What annoy me, and I think other people, it's like Jyakotu seem to want give fake objective reasons for the impossibility/meaningless of the return of Tengu (how make sense to say that Leon and Ein are more unique than Tengu compared to Bayman and Hitomi? Or that Ayane can substitute him?), more the fact that he seem to feel fun continually saying to people that talk about the character: "It's useless, he will not return ever".
A person asked for a way to requesting him to TN, people answered to him, and everyone know that Jyakotu is against its return: so what is the reason for writing similar posts?
Tengu is done. Ayane is the new Tengu. Thus, they should pick up Tengu.
Tyaren do you really think that they add something to the discussion and that they aren't done with the intent of being provocative? No one is saying to Jyakotu to change opinion about Tengu, but just like you said that "team up against him" will not bring results, the same should be applied for the opposite: to say to me, Forlon or everyone that wish for Tengu to not continue to ask for him, will not change our opinion or the one of TN about it (and overall it's a meaningless +1 in a such discussion without a proper content, I don't make random posts simply for saying "I like Tengu! Deal with it!").
Actually I would love the inclusion of all the boss characters in the DoA sequels me too (one of the reasons because I love DoA Dimensions), also if I would prefer a singularity in their moveset and not being almost clones. And like I said more times, it's just this the reason because Tengu should be included in the roster: between all the old bosses he is the one with a completely unique set, a character able to bring variety and uniqueness in the roster of a fighting game: and I think that this should be the first reason for including a character in a roster of a fighting game, not the plot of the game.
Add that he was the boss included in more games of the series compared to the others, and this make of Tengu a singular boss between Raidou and Genra. I exclude Alpha-152 because I consider the DoA4 boss unique just like Tengu, and for this same reason I really hope that it/she could return in the next games of the series like a character always present -more balanced if you think that it/she needs of it - just like the same should happen for Ein, Leon and Tengu too).
EDIT: I was forgetting guys, but thanks so much for the support showned here and on twitter. Indipendently by the final decision of Team Ninja, it's pretty nice to see so much love for one of the DoA characters generally more mistreated.
Like fan of Tengu I really appreciate it =)
I'm not a great Ayane's player, but I assure you that risky maneuvers are pretty easily possible with the purple girl and that winning it's not so easy in the hands of an average player of her. Sure can be hard to use a proper defense against a good Ayane's player (not me), but it's pretty easy to switch the fate of the match in favor of the opponent to the first distraction of Ayane (read: "put down the guard through an unsafe move").
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Aven Kujo-Gin
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Don't waste your time, Kronin, just ignore this guy, everyone here should do the same.
Pictured Mind
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Because it's basically one of her best moves.
Yes, even though she wears the mask by default, she's Lisa and not Mariposa.
Rawbietussin
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Well, judging by the pose Lisa is doing:
I can safely assume she isn't doing Lamar's win poses. Not sure if with the mask on, she would be doing her Lamar intros and winposes.
Edit: Tyaren answered ahead of me. I think it sucks and doesn't make sense considering that this is listed as a Lamar costume yet she's doing Lisa things.
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@Rawbietussin, you can make her do Mariposa's victory poses in the movie mode though. Just not in the fighting modes.
Rawbietussin
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I bet the only way for her Lamar persona to get brought up in intros is by partnering Lamar with Tina on tag. (but that's because Lisa is screaming "Yay!" in her special intro with Tina)
That's not really true. In the character select she's called "Lisa" wearing that costume, not "Mariposa" (or Lamar XD). When you buy the costume, it also says "Lisa".
The only thing that sucks: In all victory poses Lisa is blocking her breast with her arms. You never get a good look at her. :/
Rawbietussin
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Ah well. Play in tag and partner her up with Tina or Ein. At least she won't breastblock you in their winpose.
KwonJigglypuff
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She is so perfect.
Female Tengu
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That doesn't make any sense. Ryu defeatet him in DOA2. So why was he back in DOA4 then? No excuses please. I'm tired of your nonsensical talking. You can have your opinion. That's ok. But stop talking like as if Tengu has no right to be in a future/current DOA game.
And a Tengu isn't a single entity, just FYI. Just because DOA5 went a more sci-fi direction with its general story and theme design (which was also the case with DOA4 btw) doesn't mean there can't be a new/another Tengu in the DOA universe.
In Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 TN introduced even 2 Tengus based on actual authentic design (just like the DOA Tengu).
http://tokyobling.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/tengu_2.jpg
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FatalxInnocence
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Well, it used to be. Not so much these days.
~ Also, I'm genuinely curious. Would you Tengu players be ok with a brand new character, but that said character used Tengu's moveset? So his playstyle / movelist would be in the game- but visually/story wise he wouldn't? Or is your devotion to him not just to his moveset, but to his visuals as well?
His Japanese VA is absolutely amazing, but his English VA is absolutely horrendous.
I am a fan of Bankotsubo for both the character and the moveset. I would not be fine with him getting a SCV treatment, but I'd take it over nothing at all.
Pictured Mind
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It still it. It keeps the pressure because your opponents need to get the fuck up real quick if they know you use that move. If they decide to lay there they're gonna get stomped. Also it's amazing if your opponent can't backtech.[/quote]
Tengu is the whole character. Of course I wouldn't say no to a new character but in the end Tengu is unique. It's his looks, personality, moves and playstyle. It all fits. His playstyle also just works for him. It consists of flying moves and he a magnificent bird. #Tengu2014
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