THE STRONGEST THREAD IN THE WORLD (The LEON Thread)

Brute

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Don't know about you guys but I laughed at that Hi-Counter Desert Falcon. 25%? Made my night and I just woke up.
Full-life: 300
Quarter-life: 75
Minimum NH damage required for HiC 75 dmg: 50
Desert Falcon: 12 frame throw

...and what exactly about that would be noteworthy/exciting for a grappler character? It'll probably be 65 dmg, just like in previous games. Should be buffed if you ask me.
 

Russian-chiropractic19

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ill have to send him a thanks,im positive that he could have oicked
Full-life: 300
Quarter-life: 75
Minimum NH damage required for HiC 75 dmg: 50
Desert Falcon: 12 frame throw

...and what exactly about that would be noteworthy/exciting for a grappler character? It'll probably be 65 dmg, just like in previous games. Should be buffed if you ask me.

keep in mind that your supposed to use that in conjugation with the environment,so its max damage probably increases depending on where you are at.still even without walls its a decent throw
 

Brute

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keep in mind that your supposed to use that in conjugation with the environment,so its max damage probably increases depending on where you are at.still even without walls its a decent throw
Not uncommon for a throw to have wall collision. It is "decent," but that's kinda the point. Only decent. I'm not sure what XZero thinks is so exciting about a pretty run-of-the-mill throw that has been in all the past games.
 

KidArk

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Yeah I mean Bayman spinning back breaker is 100 HiC 12i throw , that was like the same damage of Bay's 4i throw 4t, i'm underwhelmed, but Leon wasn't punishing Lee and Lee wasn't respecting him. We'll have to see for now , besides damage is one thing that can easily be changed with buffs.
 

Russian-chiropractic19

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Not uncommon for a throw to have wall collision. It is "decent," but that's kinda the point. Only decent. I'm not sure what XZero thinks is so exciting about a pretty run-of-the-mill throw that has been in all the past games.

Probably has something to do with the fact Leon was getting his ass handed to him for the majority of the match then finally tossed his assaulter finally winning a round.
 

KidArk

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Guys... He'll be fine..
Relaaaaaaax ;)

You know how it is, we're just concerned because Leon has no tits and just disappointed he got beat so bad. There's nothing to do till he comes into our hands but complain that h's not in them yet. In other news anyone else feel Rachel might be the good Leon?
 
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KidArk

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i didn't see Rachel launch anyone across the map with one hand or tackle them to beat their face in.

NOT THAT I'M DOWNING LEON! Just because he can throw someone across the map doesn't make him good, what if Rachel manages to get some really good positioning and set ups off her bounce , throwing someone across the map isn't what you wanna do , you wanna stay in their face right ? I'm just saying that since the two characters are seemingly very a like and would have similar play styles , Rachel from what I've gathered seems like she may be a better Leon.This is just complete speculation and i"m just trying to have a civil conversation , i'm playing Devil's advocate if you will just to start a talk not offend anyone or the game which we'll all be playing within a month.
 
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Russian-chiropractic19

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lol calm down man i wasn't getting on your case im just saying Rachel isnt Leon, she looks fun to use in her own way just as Leon will be fun to use in his own way.
 

KidArk

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lol calm down man i wasn't getting on your case im just saying Rachel isnt Leon, she looks fun to use in her own way just as Leon will be fun to use in his own way.

I wasn't saying you were getting on my case , it's just in anticipation of that guy who'd come say i'm being too hard on Leon or something. I agree Leon will be fun even if Rachel is the better him , but I was only asking if anyone else would agree with me that from what we saw you feel Rachel may be a better him as they have similar spartan moves and the throw. I mean, it shouldn't be too hard to see a resemblance , i'm not crazy here xD. Sorry if i seemed angry or something cause I'm not , i just didn't want someone cursing at me cause i said Rachel is seeming better than leon.
 
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DontForkWitMe

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Don't see how you figure shes a better Leon. we still don't know what guaranteed setups either have or their full move lists and move properties etc. going by the vids alone means nothing when the leon player obviously had no clue what he was doing while the rachel in the other vid actually had some semblance of skill
 

Brute

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Don't see how you figure shes a better Leon. we still don't know what guaranteed setups either have or their full move lists and move properties etc. going by the vids alone means nothing when the leon player obviously had no clue what he was doing while the rachel in the other vid actually had some semblance of skill
If the guys making him don't know how to use him, it's fairly logical to assume they haven't given him great set-ups and chains, or they'd probably be using them. In general favorites of the developers also get bonus points over the other cast (Shimbori's favorite is Lei Fang, for example, and look how that turned out). If Rachel turns out weaker than Leon I will be shocked.
 

KidArk

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Don't see how you figure shes a better Leon. we still don't know what guaranteed setups either have or their full move lists and move properties etc. going by the vids alone means nothing when the leon player obviously had no clue what he was doing while the Rachel in the other vid actually had some semblance of skill

It's just minor speculation and conjecture at this point from the videos we've seen I just have an feeling that she may be that way. I could be completely wrong just as I could be completely right, I was only asking if anyone shared those feelings or if someone would say otherwise is all. Just making conversation man I'm sorry when the game comes out i'll bring up this conversation again but we can all say at the very least the characters do seem, "similar" right . Not saying TN cut and paste the characters not saying they're clones or anything just you can see how I feel one would be a better version since they're so similar? Or is nothing i'm saying making any sense and do I just sound crazy?
 

DontForkWitMe

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If the guys making him don't know how to use him, it's fairly logical to assume they haven't given him great set-ups and chains, or they'd probably be using them. In general favorites of the developers also get bonus points over the other cast (Shimbori's favorite is Lei Fang, for example, and look how that turned out). If Rachel turns out weaker than Leon I will be shocked.

The guys making him aren't high level players and aren't going to know how to play every character on the roster. balance testing consists of a whole group of testers. claiming that since one of the developers on the team has no idea how to use one character must mean the character isn't good is illogical more than anything.

It's just minor speculation and conjecture at this point from the videos we've seen I just have an feeling that she may be that way. I could be completely wrong just as I could be completely right, I was only asking if anyone shared those feelings or if someone would say otherwise is all. Just making conversation man I'm sorry when the game comes out i'll bring up this conversation again but we can all say at the very least the characters do seem, "similar" right . Not saying TN cut and paste the characters not saying they're clones or anything just you can see how I feel one would be a better version since they're so similar? Or is nothing i'm saying making any sense and do I just sound crazy?

a lot of the characters on the roster seem similar but play nothing alike sarah/rig, kasumi/ayane, eliot/genfu, kokoro/akira, Tina/Bass etc. still don't see anything about Rachel that makes her a "better Leon". other than she gets my dick hard which Leon doesn't for obvious reasons ;)

On that note whats with all this Leon doom and gloom anyway? hes finally coming back and people still aren't satisfied and feel he won't be good enough because another "similar" character looks cooler in her match vids compared to his? really?
 
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