THE STRONGEST THREAD IN THE WORLD (The LEON Thread)
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no,but it still give out a very good stun
DontForkWitMe
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no his headbutt is his new 7p now and looks to be the same speed and causes the same stun on counter hit and the stomach crumple stun on normal hit. I may be wrong about his hit throw needing a full p+k charge to work and he can do it off a non charged p+k, its just the juggle in combo training required a full charge.
That combo challenge was Rikuto. Some pretty neat stuff (when I went through the movelist it looks like you may not have to charge it for the hit-throw. I got no time to experiment with what I wanted to. Playing against Christie and Helena mains leaves you no space to try jack shit with Leon).
7P is the headbutt, replaces the old 7P (Bayman now is the only one with that arm thrust).
9P is the new jumping headbutt. Crushes lows, bounces high enough for an air grab on High Counter (not 100% sure about Counter). @10:10 www.twitch.tv/freestepdodge/b/447241165 (me vs. XCal so if I can do that with poor play now imagine what Leon can do when we get some shit really figured out)
He got a LOT of charged attacks: 2H+K was the one Rikuto used a lot in the the tag tourney. Can't remember them all off the top of my head and I didn't write them down.
Arm Grenade has 3 stages of charge: no charge for a basic strike, semi charge for a guard break, full charge for an unblockable and damaging attack. I believe each stage can Close Hit. BUFF!!!
2H+KK has returned (same as in DOAD but 2H+K can be charged)
Desert Falcon (air throw) can be aimed as you please, so far it is not automatic. Regular air throw for a throw forward, back throw for behind you, 28T to throw into the background, and 82T to throw into the foreground. Height requirement was greatly reduced.
For lulz 3:28:00.
214P can lead to air grab on Counter/Critical or Higher.
Unlike what I said before 66K is not chargeable, Bound on counter or higher. It has a very similar animation to 8K.
Mount Tackle 2T 2T is still more damaging, still an OH as 33T and running T. I was too fast for anyone to even try to escape from it so I can't confirm right now that you can't get out of the P chain of it.
BRAND NEW TAUNT!!!
"Lauren, are you watching?" Stands up straight, clenches one fist, slowly clenches the other.
If you watch the video you can tell when I noticed it because I kind of just stopped in that taunt area of the movelist for a few seconds.
In the link above it is at 2:12:53
"Go to Hell" has been renamed, didn't catch what it was.
Leon largely plays the same but he has quite a new approach to how he operates now. He is more capable than in the past to juggle (not very well demonstrated today) but he now has the tools to do it.
Just so you know I wasn't doing so hot as him on the stream. I'm the guy who punished EVERYTHING with 6T (with both Leon and Ein. You may have been bored with that but thanks to Mila that's just how I roll right now). I spent more time trying to figure out how his stuff works in this system after the third or fourth time I faced some speed character.
If I remember anything else I'll post away.
7P is the headbutt, replaces the old 7P (Bayman now is the only one with that arm thrust).
9P is the new jumping headbutt. Crushes lows, bounces high enough for an air grab on High Counter (not 100% sure about Counter). @10:10 www.twitch.tv/freestepdodge/b/447241165 (me vs. XCal so if I can do that with poor play now imagine what Leon can do when we get some shit really figured out)
He got a LOT of charged attacks: 2H+K was the one Rikuto used a lot in the the tag tourney. Can't remember them all off the top of my head and I didn't write them down.
Arm Grenade has 3 stages of charge: no charge for a basic strike, semi charge for a guard break, full charge for an unblockable and damaging attack. I believe each stage can Close Hit. BUFF!!!
2H+KK has returned (same as in DOAD but 2H+K can be charged)
Desert Falcon (air throw) can be aimed as you please, so far it is not automatic. Regular air throw for a throw forward, back throw for behind you, 28T to throw into the background, and 82T to throw into the foreground. Height requirement was greatly reduced.
For lulz 3:28:00.
214P can lead to air grab on Counter/Critical or Higher.
Unlike what I said before 66K is not chargeable, Bound on counter or higher. It has a very similar animation to 8K.
Mount Tackle 2T 2T is still more damaging, still an OH as 33T and running T. I was too fast for anyone to even try to escape from it so I can't confirm right now that you can't get out of the P chain of it.
BRAND NEW TAUNT!!!
"Lauren, are you watching?" Stands up straight, clenches one fist, slowly clenches the other.
If you watch the video you can tell when I noticed it because I kind of just stopped in that taunt area of the movelist for a few seconds.
In the link above it is at 2:12:53
"Go to Hell" has been renamed, didn't catch what it was.
Leon largely plays the same but he has quite a new approach to how he operates now. He is more capable than in the past to juggle (not very well demonstrated today) but he now has the tools to do it.
Just so you know I wasn't doing so hot as him on the stream. I'm the guy who punished EVERYTHING with 6T (with both Leon and Ein. You may have been bored with that but thanks to Mila that's just how I roll right now). I spent more time trying to figure out how his stuff works in this system after the third or fourth time I faced some speed character.
If I remember anything else I'll post away.
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Aven Kujo-Gin
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HE IS SO FREAKING GOOD RIGHT NOW.
Also, he can still use tackle laying face down, head to opponent.
Watching some of the replays now. Wow he sounds awesome. Was too loud for me to hear him.
Check out above post for any video I can show for some of the things I found.
6T changes on water to his drowning segment into a kick.
Sidestep P is uncharged Arm Grenade.
Bolded stuff in above posts is edited content for videos and remembrances.
5U will be streamed again tomorrow so I'll try not to look so bad again (stop playing the damn counterpicks so damn much).
Also, he can still use tackle laying face down, head to opponent.
Watching some of the replays now. Wow he sounds awesome. Was too loud for me to hear him.
Check out above post for any video I can show for some of the things I found.
6T changes on water to his drowning segment into a kick.
Sidestep P is uncharged Arm Grenade.
Bolded stuff in above posts is edited content for videos and remembrances.
5U will be streamed again tomorrow so I'll try not to look so bad again (stop playing the damn counterpicks so damn much).
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JAG THE GEMINI
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Nice to see that the first impressions are so positiv.. Leon deserves that!
Told you to relax.. 
Some more details.
Leon has a one hit Critical Burst combo aside from fully charged P+K. 3P on Counter then charge P+K. Naturally that by itself isn't enough. If your opponent Low Holds at the right time Leon's CB move nets him a one hit CB.
The guaranteed 214P air throw is strict. It is based on distance from you and your opponent when struck. The farther away from you the opponent is when struck the better height (for some strange reason). The closer to Leon's body the lower the height.
66PP is a natural combo.
6PP2K - 2K can be charged.
2H+KK, both segments can be charged.
Already talked about 6P+K.
236P still charges.
He really rewards aggression with some silly damage.
Leon has a one hit Critical Burst combo aside from fully charged P+K. 3P on Counter then charge P+K. Naturally that by itself isn't enough. If your opponent Low Holds at the right time Leon's CB move nets him a one hit CB.
The guaranteed 214P air throw is strict. It is based on distance from you and your opponent when struck. The farther away from you the opponent is when struck the better height (for some strange reason). The closer to Leon's body the lower the height.
66PP is a natural combo.
6PP2K - 2K can be charged.
2H+KK, both segments can be charged.
Already talked about 6P+K.
236P still charges.
He really rewards aggression with some silly damage.
Thanks for the info. Really appreciate it.
DontForkWitMe
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Just noticed in the archived stream below at the 1:04:00 Leon has a new crouch throw
http://www.twitch.tv/freestepdodge/b/447241165
i've seen him do his previous old crouch grabs too in other matches so does that mean he has 3 of them instead of 2 like everyone else?
http://www.twitch.tv/freestepdodge/b/447241165
i've seen him do his previous old crouch grabs too in other matches so does that mean he has 3 of them instead of 2 like everyone else?
At some point in one of the archives someone pauses the game and scrolls through his command list. It shows that he does, in fact, have three low throws now. He still has his 3T OH and his 2T throw, along with the new 1T.
DontForkWitMe
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sounds good. this new one gives him a stand alone non-chain throw low punish for those who don't want to risk potential chain throw breaks and losing out on damage. not to mention it looks bad ass as hell definitely will use it over the other ones to punish low holds
Aven Kujo-Gin
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Confirmed to have the intro pose back
+PD: Fuck quality.
Rawbietussin
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Confirmed to have the intro pose back
PD: Fuck quality.
That would mean their tag win pose together is the one standing side by side with their arms crossed.
At least, it's not the "secret handshake" winpose anymore that they did in DOA4/DOAD since
or + pairs share it but I do have a hunch that + would get the copy-paste treatment though.In general, I am amused.
Rawbietussin
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In short, it's the strongest handshake in the world.