"This ends now. By my hand!" Kasumi's DOA5LR Discussion Thread

[J.D.E.]

Honestly, unless they're going to do another patch update with the new character in March, I really don't see it getting touched. The move isn't totally useless. I still use it within the PP6KK string & certain situations for combo extensions, but not near the wall. The move is -7 & you can OS it when someone tries to grab you. If you use the shoulder P+K button, & if someone neutral throws, you'll tech the throw by default. If they use a 7i throw or more, then you can jab them & then go into your offense. Your best bet is to stick with stuff that doesn't whiff like that near the wall. Like 9K, 3PK, 6P6K, 4K, 3KK, etc.

When they changed the hitbox in a previous patch, it messed with the move some other way, causing it to whiff in certain situations. It's not even a legitimate BNB combo filler, either for her launch grab. You're better of using 66K-K 7K6KK with 236T & then using that combo route near the wall.

 

[Chapstick]

???

 

[tokiopewpew]

Are you referring to the fact that you still get beaten out although you should be at ~+10 due to the parry?

 

[KasumiLover]

Why didn't she teleport behind her?

 

[Chapstick]

Are you referring to the fact that you still get beaten out although you should be at ~+10 due to the parry?

She teleported in place

 

[tokiopewpew]

Yeah, didn't see that at first. Maybe the game said "Ayane is backturned so her front is her back which means Kasumi has to port to her front". Condition satisfied when Ayane turned around, haha. Mindfuck.

Just tested a bit around though, this does not seem to happen on other characters / backturned attacks.

 

[KasumiLover]

So guys, the Azuchi stage is gonna have a ceiling, and torches on the bottom level for sit down stuns.

 

[Chapstick]

I swear I find a new glitch for her every time I go in the lab to screw around

 

[PMS_Akali]

I swear I find a new glitch for her every time I go in the lab to screw around

Next level teleport. You can now go through objects. What an amazing Ninja.

 

[Zero Beat]

The laws of physics are mere suggestions to a Ninja.

 

[tokiopewpew]

Not sure what to think of. Her mid kicks will always be a wonky thing I guess. Or Hayabusas crushes are just too good.

 

[PMS_Akali]

Not sure what to think of. Here mid kicks will always be a wonky thing I guess. Or Hayabusas crushes are just too good.

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Probably a bit of both.

 

[tokiopewpew]

Why would she even deserve to get invincibility frames after that whiff, especially against an overhead-like attack 4H+K is.

I like how Christie is able to attack instantly after getting backturned, still avoiding 6K.

 

[Lulu]

LoL.... seems like everbody's got problem's with their Characters.

 

[Chapstick]

Why would she even deserve to get invincibility frames after that whiff, especially against an overhead-like attack 4H+K is.

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I like how Christie is able to attack instantly after getting backturned, still avoiding 6K.

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1st one, it could be 4H+K going ever so slightly to the side of Lisa because of her recovery animation and whiffing for that reason which is still bull. The Kasumi trio has some odd issues with that in my experience (particularly 9K for Kasumi & Phase/6K for Alpha but I could imagine it extending to 4H+K)

2nd one, infamous 6K issues. Was this the level 8 AI because that SE was quick

 

[tokiopewpew]

1st one, it could be 4H+K going ever so slightly to the side of Lisa because of her recovery animation and whiffing for that reason which is still bull. The Kasumi trio has some odd issues with that in my experience (particularly 9K for Kasumi & Phase/6K for Alpha but I could imagine it extending to 4H+K)

It would be interesting to check how other mid kick moves with a kinda similar hit box behave in that situation, like Hayates 3H+K for example.

2nd one, infamous 6K issues. Was this the level 8 AI because that SE was quick

Yeah, that was a match against level 8 AI. Always good for some "wow, wtf" moments, haha.

 

[Zero Beat]

Ah yes, level 8, a.k.a., "Yeah, I'm reacting faster than any human could and reading your button inputs so I can do a perfect counter most of the time. What are you gonna do about it?"

 

[tokiopewpew]

Ah yes, level 8, a.k.a., "Yeah, I'm reacting faster than any human could and reading your button inputs so I can do a perfect counter most of the time. What are you gonna do about it?"

It's still providing me a lot more fun as wonky online matches recently do though. I like that those perfect counters lead into more even matches. Like you can go 2-0 against the AI and then expect to get countered more often almost for sure, resulting in an 2-2 quickly.

I find it helps for not falling into auto-pilot mode which often happens when playing online because many players don't adjust and punish you that well for things you do repetitive. It's also useful to train reacting to individual things like sidestepping since the AI will play every character in a different manner but mostly with putting an emphasis on a specific move (e.g. AI Momiji loves to sidestep or AI Hitomi loves to hold/parry).

 

[Lulu]

Ah yes, level 8, a.k.a., "Yeah, I'm reacting faster than any human could and reading your button inputs so I can do a perfect counter most of the time. What are you gonna do about it?"

This is Team Ninja's way of forcing you to play online. Which would be fine if the online was decent (for me).

 

[KasumiLover]

This is Team Ninja's way of forcing you to play online. Which would be fine if the online was decent (for me).

I don't really like online...I love playing online with friends and my senseis because it's fun, but I don't like fighting random people, nor people in ranked because the game likes to pair me up with people who just got the game and are still learning, which I deem unfair.