Venus Vacation Prism: Dead or Alive Xtreme Discussion & Release

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(Notice: The DOAX/VV thread is getting extremely clogged with Prism's addition, and since Prism is being counted as the third DOA IP, it makes sense to grant Prism its own official thread. Please do not create any additional DOAX threads on Free Step Dodge as they will be locked. Please do not post any pornographic content as it is not officially included in any DOA game and violates are SFW policy. The initial post is a complete release program of Prism and is currently being perfected. Feel free to point out any corrections you may have related to Prism's complete release coverage.)

Dead or Alive Xtreme Venus Vacation: Prism has caught the attention of Team NINJA and Koei Tecmo players all over the world, and while it is not the next big mainstay Team NINJA title there are many factors to suggest that it will lead to bigger things in the future. Let's go over what we know so far pertaining to this title.

Concept

Without question, the most important piece of information we have been given so far is that Prism will be more of a dating simulator more than Venus Vacation ever was. While VV offers plenty of interaction with DOA girls; it's all about the eye candy for most players. The Prism experience will be more narrative driven and within weeks you can "fall in love" with one of the six available girls.

Players have also noted that the outfits available aren't very revealing and this is not because of Sony censorship. The developers are trying to make it a casual dating game. If you get a Venus to "love you" maybe then they will show themselves off to you in more revealing articles of clothing as a reward of bonding.

Spreading DOA Characters Across 3 Separate DOA Intellectual Properties

The six available Venus being: Misaki, Fiona, Tamaki, Elise, Honoka and Nanami at launch with only "consideration of future DLC" by the development team. Likely no DLC at all, but strong sales could definitely change that approach for any developer team.

Yasunori Sakuta pointed out some important aspects pertaining to the lack of original DOA girls being featured within Prism and believes it's a good thing that there are a strong variety of girls that aren't original DOA fighting characters. He states that if there is going to be a new IP for DOA that each IP will be different.

With DOA you have the classic competitive 3D fighting game, with DOAX/VV you have the sexy beach and volleyball experience and with DOAXVVP you have a narrative focus on dating one of the DOA girls.

From a personal POV, Prism probably should have more OG characters such as Kasumi and Ayane but making them available characters would be more of an interference for their storyline. Does falling in love with the owner destroy their storyline being bad ass NINJA characters? I think that is far more questionable than the original DOA female characters being tricked by Zack into taking a break on an island (DOAXVV).

Graphics & Engine Information

These characters were crafted using an optimized and updated version of Koei Tecmo's Katana engine. Some areas of the models look very nice and other areas such as the overly thin arms need some tinkering even after all of the final adjustments made for the release. The "arm issue" has been a prevalent issue within Koei Tecmo development for a while and even if it's a small nitpick that does not mean it isn't a concern. They have everything else done perfectly, but the arms should match the rest of the proportions as shown by NINJA Gaiden II Black.

There are things that the Katana engine can do that can't be done within DOAXVV. The most important being a higher range of freedom. You will walk with the girls on the island and see them walk on the island, and you will also see weather effects such as rain be implemented for the first time which will have an impact on the character models as well with tantalizing wet effects.

The beaches and vistas also look much better than what we've previously seen before. Just like Venus Vacation, Prism will revolve around taking stunning photographs to be shared on social media. The camera presented in this game is among one of the best cameras ever implemented into a video game.

Storyline

The storyline for Prism is pretty simple and depicts what you didn't see and what you didn't know with the Venus Vacation storyline that only these six Venus characters can incorporate according to Sakuta. Misaki appears to host and guide the owner through the Venus Festival which is a strength and beauty contest for the Venus.

Venus Vacation will continue as a Summer that never really ends, but Prism will start out as a standalone title where storylines will come to an end and expand into other titles if it is well received. Sakuta has also reminded the press that there will not be standard DLC in the swimsuit or character sense if any at all. It has actually been heavily implied that there will not be DLC; but that will always be left for debate and can change in the blink of an eye.

My guess is the selling point will be to buy new story chapters and that will be the DLC of the Prism title. Within those new story chapters is where you will be introduced to different characters rather than selecting one to take on a two-week vacation as done in DOAXVB-DOAX2 or setting a main character with your Venus Vacation experience.

Release Packages & Future

I think the most logical explanation is that if Prism is successful, it will branch off from being a physically/digitally owned PS4/PS5/STEAM/DMM to another FTP model, but naturally the team is not going to reveal that when in the beginning they are trying sell actual paid copies of the game like DOAX3 and DOAX3: Scarlett.

While the game seems enticing; the interviews presented do make it feel more like an experiment to see if the idea sticks to the DOAX audience, but given how many people have asked for more dates (especially within the Japanese audience) there is no question that it will likely perform very well and sell out on websites like Play Asia.

Several weeks ago, the game almost broke Top 10 on the Japanese Amazon and is expected to be the highest imported game ever on the PlayStation 5 home video game console. If you are an EU or NA player, you will want to import the game by purchasing the Asian version of Prism.

Preordering the game gave you an early dress outfit for not just Nanami as shown in the promotional picture, but for the remaining five Venus as well. Preordering the game from the Koei Tecmo Store got you a "special clear file" for physical documents.

There are several editions of Prism you can purchase, but the basic edition does not include these extras from other editions and the Special Collection Box "Goods" edition does not include the actual game.

Special Collection Box Contents:

- A 40-page artbook that contains all six Venus and a photo page with ASMR scenes.
- An additional date with Tamaki (DLC Code).
- One Fabric Poster that displays all 6 Venus.
- One Nanami Pillowcase that features two sides with alternative outfits.
- Yomu Illustration Desk Mat that features the Venus in business outfits.

The Premium Box also has a "Goods Only" version, but the Premium Box does not include the Pillowcase or Desk Mat.

 
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goddamn the animation suck hard, Tamaki and Nanami interaction looks off somehow :oops:

The date interactions shown in the cut scene trailer looked really nice as did the expressions.

When we get to the actual demonstration of Honoka’s photo op at the beach — things start getting bad, and I mean just awful. The beach looked terrible. Everything from the water to the rocks.

And yes, as you said the interaction with Tamaki and Nanami just looked completely unnatural. Their body sizes don’t look right, and they almost didn’t fit the indoor setting at all.

Wasn’t too pleased with what has been show so far, but I’ll be playing it. They are delaying it to add more so hopefully they include a layer of polish with the extra content.
 
Koei Tecmo delaying a game but forcing it to release before the end of march no matter what? Where have I seen that before...
 
Koei Tecmo delaying a game but forcing it to release before the end of march no matter what? Where have I seen that before...
To be fair, they DID state they wanted to polish up the game more to make sure it was high quality, so there is some benefit to this.
 
My biggest problem is the bodies. They look like Ariana Grande after filming Wicked and you know what Ariana Grande looked like after filming Wicked? Like fucking Karen Carpenter a week before she died. The bodies look horrible. There is no fullness to them. The faces look fantastic, and the bodies are so bad it's painful.
 
My biggest problem is the bodies. They look like Ariana Grande after filming Wicked and you know what Ariana Grande looked like after filming Wicked? Like fucking Karen Carpenter a week before she died. The bodies look horrible. There is no fullness to them. The faces look fantastic, and the bodies are so bad it's painful.
So true, the bodies imo remind me of early Illusion soft games before they dropped the trend of making the girls super skinny and anime with busty chests but nothing else before they finally got into 2014 and started adding more thickness to the girls when they realized guys didn't just want boobs xD

I feel like since they went over to doa6 they've slowly been losing their touch with girls' body proportions, they should have used the DOA5-X3 proportions and just enhanced and improved on that since those were the best body models imo besides the lower textures. Now the girls look model skinny with just the boobs and barely the rears being much to offer some curvature. Maybe it's for the visual novel aesthetic tho but it does look strange the closer we get to release
 
So true, the bodies imo remind me of early Illusion soft games before they dropped the trend of making the girls super skinny and anime with busty chests but nothing else before they finally got into 2014 and started adding more thickness to the girls when they realized guys didn't just want boobs xD

I feel like since they went over to doa6 they've slowly been losing their touch with girls' body proportions, they should have used the DOA5-X3 proportions and just enhanced and improved on that since those were the best body models imo besides the lower textures. Now the girls look model skinny with just the boobs and barely the rears being much to offer some curvature. Maybe it's for the visual novel aesthetic tho but it does look strange the closer we get to release

I agree completely. I've tried to be positive about the game, and I don't despise overly skinny people; but this is going too far with it.
 
Not sure if any news or confirmed, but they did add their VV hairstyles.
I just hope the animation improves by release.
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EDIT: Forgot about the other 3.
Hopefully they added Elise's long hair option.
 
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Isn't it just her side ponytail? I think it looks good, the color tho looks alot more vibrant than her Venus vacation version tho imo. Hopefully they'll have more looks or at least a new one for each girl but they'll probably reserve that for dlc if they do opt to do that
 
These images look a lot better than what we've seen previously. Bodies look a little more proportionate.
I'll be honest....

Between you and me, I'd be highly up to the idea of TN switching from Katana engine to the Unreal Engine 5 visuals we have with NG2B, body models and the minute details all imo pop out more. I like how Prism looks visually, even now from the shots, but idk, it's like there's something... soft core and almost intentionally not super detailed or super enthralling like Ninja Gaiden 2 black, almost like they're holding back on their full potential, but maybe it's just the game's different tones since NG is alot more serious than Prism is and I think they did that visually to keep both games in their own lane like the OG DOA vs Ninja gaiden back in the day
 
I'll be honest....

Between you and me, I'd be highly up to the idea of TN switching from Katana engine to the Unreal Engine 5 visuals we have with NG2B, body models and the minute details all imo pop out more. I like how Prism looks visually, even now from the shots, but idk, it's like there's something... soft core and almost intentionally not super detailed or super enthralling like Ninja Gaiden 2 black, almost like they're holding back on their full potential, but maybe it's just the game's different tones since NG is alot more serious than Prism is and I think they did that visually to keep both games in their own lane like the OG DOA vs Ninja gaiden back in the day
It almost feels like there are two different model types. I have seen them look really nice like with these pictures just shown today and then some dialogue box cut scenes look like what you suggest here.

That pose Misaki is doing speaks to me as attractive without being overexposed. Her skin and proportions look acceptable. I also like the outfit.

I am going into this game not expecting much at all, but something tells me I might like the final product more than I am thinking.
 
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