MasterHavik
Well-Known Member
oh okay. I can't wait to do flips in Lisa's swimsuit.
Every character's fastest mid is fast enough.
Slowest elbow in the game is 15f. Is that fast enough?
Make the throw an OH? Not as good as working a stun but it would make it more guaranteed, and would stay in the offensive since one don't have to think about whether you better stay offensive or turn defensive (so long she has a BT attack to crush lows).If the opponent is not stunned, BT 1P gives Lisa a throw/attack mix-up. If the opponent slow escapes, the throw will connect as long as the opponent doesn't attack, but all attacks can be blocked.
also has better range, not sure about the active hitboxes between the two though, that could play a factor in why it exists in her movelist, but I agree it definitley needs better application, maybe give that more range than to scare the OP into playing less offensively.Forgot to mention:
qcf throw needs a buff somehow. It only does 5 more damage than 66 throw, but it is i20.
I think TN may have given this to Lisa to mixup with qcf K during CB mixups since they are the same frames, but meh.
I think if it had evasive properties built in at the start (she crouches at the beginning), or did some more damage it could be pretty good.
i honestly think lisa's bt p+k is fine as it is. sure its slow, but it has enough advantage(+17) to allow for fast enough guaranteed stuns or mixups.BT P+K and all its variants need to be twice as fast, and 1k needs to have DOA4 properties. I think these two changes alone would bump Lisa up one or two notches from garbage tier.