and give guaranteed ground pickups, but :[[p]]: doesn't because it pushes them too far back.
I agree. You're not going to have any luck interrupting her strings, especially online, so stay sharp and look for an opportunity to punish with 6T.
i concur. she's an evasive little trollop. but i find 6T quite useful. i think the key is to fall back,let her spin and evade to her ugly little heart's content and not get suckered into attacking, then punishing her attempts to close the distance.. maybe not the most exciting way to play, but it tends to work. .
to be my best friend in most situations, especially when she goes into her spin mix-ups which are mostly high-low. Identifying those lets you have an easier time with her and punish the low attempts. after a hard knockdown is viable and could lead to some interesting setups. You'll be at around -25 to -30 (depends on which move your use) by the time the opponent recovers, you'll be quite far away and recover yin BT. Now, I don't know how effective this is, but if someone whiffs a wake-up kick after you jump over them, you'll end up being at +frames. You can probably get something in BT from the position like BT or . Keep in mind that you would normally whiff if the opponent doesn't recover from BT. doesn't seem to guarantee anything other than a . Pretty much the only guaranteed thing I've found from a non-juggle hard knockdown.. That's gonna be fun for tag combos. on a back-turned opponent puts them in a slip stun which can be followed up with a or . The only downside of this is that the would in not cause a limbo stun due to the stance. This also comboes into his slip stun. That means you can have two slip stuns in a row. into whatever follow-up. They're much better setups and they're guaranteed outside of corners or walls. on normal or counter is to dash in and do . This is a much preffered option because the option leads to the blender and doesn't. Also, the close hit properties after in this special situation leads to inconsistent damage, which I think is a bug. On close hit you could sometimes get some inconsistent damage. Sometimes you get 66, sometimes you 57 and in some cases even 50. I'm not sure what's causing this, tbh. and neutral throw are buffed, but the is still 50. and . Low BT OH hold gives some pitiful damage, even on Hi-counter, but it has a high payoff of +10, which could potentially allow for fuzzy guarding, but you have to be on point or you'll be grabbed. This could potentially put the opponent in a clutch situation where they'll either try to attack and get hit with CH BT , duck and get reset or hit by BT while crouching or do nothing and get grabbed. Still the BT grab option is the riskiest option, because if you try to fuzzy guard, you could potentially get grabbed by the low BT OH again due to the active frames.
Good stuff. I never bother with OH because of their speed/damage/ risk payoff it never seemed worth using. I just launch a blend, or bait hold for HiC throw. Bass' OH options are crap in my opinion.
Something I found, but it's still not as good as straight up going for a
However, one major advantage of this setups is that the slip stun could potentially force an opponent to guess and TFBB is a very viable answer if they do try to guess mid.
Also, a better option after
update: Damage on his
Normal OH damage decreased by three for both
doesn't seem to combo well on CH/HCH. You'll need to delay the second for a few frames for them to combo. If you do it too early, you'll whiff and if you do it too late, it won't combo.:[H]::[P]: streight up whiffs right in their face and it costs me matches. > can now lead to either an air-throw or on all characters. These previously didn't work on all characters in Vanilla 5, but now it works on all weight classes.
is still -6 and been that way since vanilla. is still listed as an OH in the moves list. TN probably forgot to change that before the game shipped.. These are for maximizing damage mostly and if you're willing to sacrifice your blender. has a tendency to whiff if not timed right. is more consistent. The tends to whiff in some situations as well, but if you do early enough, then the would connect. against Momiji. One issue is that in most cases, both tend to whiff each other and Bass would end up in recovery, with Bass ending up more recovery, therefore at slight disadvantage. The only option which Bass can legit beat is the as she's still recovering in the air and ends up getting hit.
Hurtbox issues tends to whiff especially on a couching Christie, Helena and in some cases on Ayane. itself would gradually shift Bass to the side. when she's CROUCHING, even if it's at a slight angle or up close. Helena has the same problem, but it's way worse with Christie because her hurtbox when crouching is so low that the kick could whiff if you're too close and at a slight angle. This also happens to and even if you're up close. comletely whiffs 90% of the time and it can happen even if you're slightly off the right angle or at range 0. This situations can happen after a ground throw. A tracking mid no less., and the trass kick, but only at a specific angle of around 30 to 50 degrees. Trass kick also whiffs on Ayane, but it's at a strict 45 degree angle and other than that, she has no issues. The rest of the case also had no issues.) and do . Test this with and too. Record this just in case so they fix this retarded hurtbox before the arcade release.
You guys are kicking knowledge way over my head. Whats this tech?
if they hold you can either punish or throw on reaction, probably back into 6H+P. If you time your dash correctly you can also walk behind the opponent if they don't hold and get a small back-turned attack. Sometimes you can do which gives you grizzly typically right back into the rope wall.