What's with all the people here joining VFDC?

David Gregg

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I could care less if you don't like DOA and have no desire to convince you otherwise. I'm just trying to help you out b/c you sound like you lack knowledge about the game's fundamentals (which I will admit is not very straightforward and TN needs to make a better tutorial mode explaining them to newcomers in future DOA games).
 

MAtteoJHDY

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So anyway,

You guys are serious about liking this 'deep stun' stuff? you actually like playing like this?

Are you guys seriously telling me that being put into large disadvantage for silly moves is actually what you prefer?

I get that in a perfect situation you would be able to somehow avoid it, but you actually like it? dont you wish it went away the next game?
 

Nereus

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That, or change the stun game to one similar to VF, so that people can actually defend for once.

for the last time dude.... ITS NOT VF. VF is a great game, i enjoy playing it and i want to get better at it, but your complaints are unreasonable. VERY UNREASONABLE.
 

MAtteoJHDY

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Unfortunately, your recent report has been rejected: Post in thread 'What's with all the people here joining VFDC?' - Profanity is allowed on FSD. Personal attacks are not, however "GTFO" is not an attack. It's just internet slang for disagreeing with what you said.

LOL 'get the fuck out' is not an attack?
 

MAtteoJHDY

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for the last time dude.... ITS NOT VF. VF is a great game, i enjoy playing it and i want to get better at it, but your complaints are unreasonable. VERY UNREASONABLE.

Why? do you like being put in a silly stun for 25-30 frames out of a CH P?
 

CyberEvil

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@MAtteoJHDY I closed your report. I even took the time to explain why 'GTFO' is not an attack. Further, you reported it for being profanity, which is totally fine on this site. He didn't even write it out. If you ask me, he was being a gentleman.

You seem to have difficulty understanding things that were explained to you in detail and your posts have been pretty damn close to trolling. Either listen to what people are explaining to you or stop asking questions you've clearly already decided upon answers for.
 

Nereus

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Why? do you like being put in a silly stun for 25-30 frames out of a CH P?

MK- " Why? Do you like being anti-aired by a regular jab? "
SF- "Why? Do you like being hit with a DP every wake-up?"
Injustice- "Why? Do you like getting hit with projectiles"
VF- "Why? Do you like getting CH'd for half-health damage?"
Tekken "Why? Do you like being wall-raped?"
DOA- "Why? Do you like being put in stun?"

See what im doing? Im saying that something is a flaw in a game just because i don't like it. Thats exactly what your doing. Have a nice day troll.
 

MAtteoJHDY

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Why? my points still stand. you have a game that could be good if not for the silly things I keep trying to explain to you. Why, instead of saying "oh but in a ideal situation you would not have to do that" dont you guys ask for a better system? do you like being put at large disadvantage so easily? why? tell me why this is acceptable for you.

And yes, I disagree that 'GTFO' is not a personal attack. you should revise your policies, if that is the case.
 

Awesmic

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So anyway,

You guys are serious about liking this 'deep stun' stuff? you actually like playing like this?

Are you guys seriously telling me that being put into large disadvantage for silly moves is actually what you prefer?
Of course. Understanding the stun system and improving your yomi in the process makes for great mental stimulation, especially when you have solid rules behind it such as:

1) Not being able to use hold from a wall stun
2) Not being able to use holds from unholdable stuns until the animation is complete.
3) Not being able to use wakeup kicks after a wall throw.

In addition, the deeper the stun is, the higher you can launch an opponent. Characters have launch heights determined by weight class. Once you've grasped a full understanding of this and stick to a character long enough, it becomes enjoyable, much like learning your game, which I'm quite sure we all respect.

And IIRC, I don't recall anyone from FSD hijacking your forum questioning why you love VF. So please, be more fair.
 

MAtteoJHDY

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MK- " Why? Do you like being anti-aired by a regular jab? "
SF- "Why? Do you like being hit with a DP every wake-up?"
Injustice- "Why? Do you like getting hit with projectiles"
VF- "Why? Do you like getting CH'd for half-health damage?"
Tekken "Why? Do you like being wall-raped?"
DOA- "Why? Do you like being put in stun?"

See what im doing? Im saying that something is a flaw in a game just because i don't like it. Thats exactly what your doing. Have a nice day troll.


I dont play the other games, just DOA and VF, but afaik in SF you dont get hit with a DP every wake up like you get stunned in DOA,

Nor in VF you get half health damage on a simple CH P. a CH p will land you at +8, which is reasonable advantage but nothing guaranteed after that.

So come back with something stronger please.
 

CyberEvil

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Why? my points still stand. you have a game that could be good if not for the silly things I keep trying to explain to you. Why, instead of saying "oh but in a ideal situation you would not have to do that" dont you guys ask for a better system? do you like being put at large disadvantage so easily? why? tell me why this is acceptable for you.

And yes, I disagree that 'GTFO' is not a personal attack. you should revise your policies, if that is the case.
Your opinion of what constitutes a "silly thing" is just that; an opinion. The opinions of several people have been directly contradictory to yours and came with bonus information about why they are what they are. OPINIONS!

We welcome anybody and everybody to come to our forums and discuss things with us. The problem is that your idea of what a discussion entails is you slamming your fist on the lunch table and telling the kids around you that they should believe what you do.

As for our policies, if you don't like them you CAN get the fuck out. You've kept yourself willfully ignorant regarding the DoA systems despite people who obviously play and enjoy VF showing you how what we have is already solid and doesn't need to be more like VF. I have little patience to begin with and you're testing it.
 

MAtteoJHDY

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Of course. Understanding the stun system and improving your yomi in the process makes for great mental stimulation, especially when you have solid rules behind it such as:

1) Not being able to use hold from a wall stun
2) Not being able to use holds from unholdable stuns until the animation is complete.
3) Not being able to use wakeup kicks after a wall throw.

In addition, the deeper the stun is, the higher you can launch an opponent. Characters have launch heights determined by weight class. Once you've grasped a full understanding of this and stick to a character long enough, it becomes enjoyable, much like learning your game, which I'm quite sure we all respect.

And IIRC, I don't recall anyone from FSD hijacking your forum questioning why you love VF. So please, be more fair.

Well, in fact this is what happened! over at VFDC, I made pretty much this point about DOA being all or nothing, and not liking it this aspect of the game, and I was told that I didn't know enough of the game to make a valid comment.

But it seems to me that my opinion is actually valid. Its not due to me being inexperienced that, its the game that is supposed to be played like this.
 

MAtteoJHDY

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Your opinion of what constitutes a "silly thing" is just that; an opinion. The opinions of several people have been directly contradictory to yours and came with bonus information about why they are what they are. OPINIONS!

We welcome anybody and everybody to come to our forums and discuss things with us. The problem is that your idea of what a discussion entails is you slamming your fist on the lunch table and telling the kids around you that they should believe what you do.

As for our policies, if you don't like them you CAN get the fuck out. You've kept yourself willfully ignorant regarding the DoA systems despite people who obviously play and enjoy VF showing you how what we have is already solid and doesn't need to be more like VF. I have little patience to begin with and you're testing it.

You get the fuck out if you cant put up with an argument.
 

CyberEvil

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You get the fuck out if you cant put up with an argument.
See, that's not how it works. Please observe. THIS is how you tell someone to get the fuck out. We don't do arguments here, we do debates. I hope you're taking notes on what comes next. Consider it your homework for when you can post again in a month or so. I'm hoping you just stay gone, but I'm willing to play this game again if you so desire.
 

David Gregg

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He only came over here to start trouble. Tried to help him with that vid so he could see that stuns aren't all or nothing but it's pointless talking to a troll. :rolleyes:
 
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