I Am The Shadow... The True Self... [General Discussion]

tokiopewpew

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Her reindeer skirt does not even slip like a skirt when she's performing a handstand or similar (e.g. 66T). Just noticed that along the way some days ago. Or it's just pretty thick fabric, haha.
 

Chapstick

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Why do her 236T and 1T into ceilings always get limbo stuns from 4P no matter the stance but with a ceiling power launcher it's only closed that gets it? :/
 

tokiopewpew

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Mhm ... we'll see what that means. It's okay if some of her other tools got buffed in terms of safety or so.
 

Saber

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Considering how terrible her neutral game is, she needs everything she can get. An i10 P is not too much a big deal, but it did help her in R1F.
 

tokiopewpew

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Yeah, I also took a look at Wah's stream replay and it's definitely still 9 frames. Just to add this information to the already known fact that Phase will be able to teleport on block:

It looks like her teleport from 3P is -8 itself, however, since she has the follow-ups available, she could go into chifu P, which would be kind of a safe block string, since chifu P is -4 (assuming TN didn't change this). However, she still would have to worry about sidestepping and high crushes.

And although her 66K teleport shows +2 advantage in the info, it was clearly visible that even Bayman can jab her out of it, so my previous doubts about the use of that opportunity are actually more consolidated. In that case, the only purpose of that teleport would be that it allows her to be more safe in the neutral game/whiff punishment.
 

ninjaguy446

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Yeah, I also took a look at Wah's stream replay and it's definitely still 9 frames. Just to add this information to the already known fact that Phase will be able to teleport on block:

It looks like her teleport from 3P is -8 itself, however, since she has the follow-ups available, she could go into chifu P, which would be kind of a safe block string, since chifu P is -4 (assuming TN didn't change this). However, she still would have to worry about sidestepping and high crushes.

And although her 66K teleport shows +2 advantage in the info, it was clearly visible that even Bayman can jab her out of it, so my previous doubts about the use of that opportunity are actually more consolidated. In that case, the only purpose of that teleport would be that it allows her to be more safe in the neutral game/whiff punishment.
I was a little confused about the 66K part. At first, he could 66K chifu P and not be interrupted by Bayman's P. But then later on he knocked her out of it. Was he trying to teleport into normal P and she just doesn't have the frames to do it?
 

tokiopewpew

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If tenfu P is interuptable with a simple jab, free cancel attempts will be even more. Btw, teleports from 66K are tenfu, not chifu.
 

ninjaguy446

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If tenfu P is interuptable with a simple jab, free cancel attempts will be even more. Btw, teleports from 66K are tenfu, not chifu.
I meant like at first he did 66K on block into tenfu P and Bayman couldn't interrupt, but then he did 66K on block and Bayman interrupted him with P. I was asking if the second set he did it if he was trying to free cancel into P since in the first set tenfu P was beating Bayman's P.

Bleh, I was so tired when I wrote that, sorry.
 

synce

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Kinda disappointing she can be hit out of 66k ten p/k, but I assume you can at least block the jab with a cancel? Also did they change tenfu throw to OH? That would do wonders for her

Edit: Just confirmed it's still a regular throw :/
 
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KwonJigglypuff

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Would be nice to see Phase 4 getting that move.

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Imput could be : 236PK.
 

synce

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I wouldn't mind if they changed PKKK to PKKKKKK... instead of a 3-in-1 give people the option to delay or cancel each kick. Would definitely help with her safety problem
 

tokiopewpew

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Not really since a low sweep or high crush would stop you anyway. Even if you free cancel, you'll have recovery. The string needs to go high > mid to be threatening, and with PP6P, she already has such kind of string.
 

synce

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Oh yeah the first few kicks were all high weren't they? I'm sort of relearning P4 right now after dropping her for a while.

BTW bad idea. Usually when I drop a DOA character I can relearn optimal combos in like a day, but P4 is an entirely different beast. There's just so many things she can do after a launch depending on positioning, weight, how she got it, etc. This is easily the hardest character to master, and that's not even factoring execution (which IMO is actually her easiest point)
 
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