Baji Breakdancer
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For real, though, who's making Marie Rose cry? Don't make that girl cry, she will knife you.
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For real, though, who's making Marie Rose cry? Don't make that girl cry, she will knife you.
I'm not going to go into an off-topic tangent on how well-characterized the entire roster is, but to keep it brief, most characters ride on their charisma in the earlier games, and then nothing at all in later games. In this respect, Hayabusa isn't unique. In the earlier games he had a goofy aloofness, quoting bizarre idioms that matched his unorthodox fighting style and played off some other characters in somewhat amusing ways. He was like a fish out of water, but somehow flapped so well it demands attention. For contrast, Helena had a very extravagant and condescending demeanor (such as the exchange with Gen Fu) that gave her a lot of presence outside of "plot relevance." Then you look at DOA5, and Hayabusa is a stale board. So is Helena, and pretty much everyone else.
If you honestly think that Hayabusa is uniquely "unnecessary" comparative to the rest of the roster, you're simply riding on confirmation bias. It's not like Jann Lee, Kokoro, or Leifang have these deeply compelling character interactions that utterly blow Hayabusa's out of the water. More likely what's going on is that you just want to highlight the contrast between what you perceive to be the character's popularity versus his actual characterization. And that's fine. But again, he's not uniquely "unnecessary" in that respect. He's played off of other characters in the past to a degree rather typical with the rest of the main roster.
If you honestly think that Hayabusa is uniquely "unnecessary" comparative to the rest of the roster, you're simply riding on confirmation bias. It's not like Jann Lee, Kokoro, or Leifang have these deeply compelling character interactions that utterly blow Hayabusa's out of the water. More likely what's going on is that you just want to highlight the contrast between what you perceive to be the character's popularity versus his actual characterization. And that's fine. But again, he's not uniquely "unnecessary" in that respect. He's played off of other characters in the past to a degree rather typical with the rest of the main roster.
You should know by now that I can be pretty damn compelling.
Haven't you ever known someone that isn't exactly colorful? Can that not be a personality in itself or something? When you say it was literally all he did, that's obviously not correct.
You are compelling, but sometimes you are too hard to please.
Doesn't make me wrong.
I personally would’ve loved it if every character had a deep compelling story that explains every detail of their personality, but that is highly unrealistic considering DOA and fighting game standards. So far the only character in DOA who has a really developed story explaining her personality is Ayane. The rest is just on surface level when it comes to personal development. In the end it’s a fighting game so it’s to be expected that the cast doesn’t really have developed persona’s and background stories. I think TN became very lazy when it comes to writing good stories.
The police for making her boyfriend go to jail for dating a minor xD
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Macca Beam
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can't she just show her id? last i checked the law is all about the number
anyway, if those AREN'T crocodile tears, i'm going to riot. "wicked little devil", many of the taunts are actual taunts, fake lose animation, yet the other half of the time we still have another "kinda nice and honest girl" like the rest of the cast. i already pretended xtreme didn't exist, but the polite ass conversation with helena isn't promising either
grr
anyway, if those AREN'T crocodile tears, i'm going to riot. "wicked little devil", many of the taunts are actual taunts, fake lose animation, yet the other half of the time we still have another "kinda nice and honest girl" like the rest of the cast. i already pretended xtreme didn't exist, but the polite ass conversation with helena isn't promising either
grr
Goten21
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Sorry I'm quoting such an old post and it's kind of OT but... this is the first time I've seen her name spelled like that and it's made me realize it's obviously a reference to the elements and how they probably give some explosive reaction or what ever
Fitting name lmao
Xhominid The Demon Within
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You know that's not the point Brute...
A Reminder that you have issues with Kasumi or Ayane being pivotal in the story of Ninja Gaiden, something I actually AGREE with.
It's the same issue here in that despite Ryu's presence... he makes M.I.S.T. an utter joke and the question always comes in when Ryu will finally have enough or is M.I.S.T. going to pull some insane trump card that will make even Ryu not be the gamebreaker than he is.
And with the fact he butted into Kasumi beating Raidou(her needing him to beat Raidou) and then Ayane for Genra(which was already bad enough she needed Hayate but BOTH OF THEM needing Ryu was just fucking ridiculous beyond compare) just makes his intrusions worse...
EDIT: I'll make my point a little better. I don't have an issue with Ryu being in DOA or as a character or anything, I just hate how he interfered in otherwise pivotal parts of Kasumi and Ayane's storylines in DOAD. Him being proactive in DOA5(or finally having enough) can lead to interesting implications for DOA6... but the issue is that now M.I.S.T. needs a trump card SPECIFICALLY for Ryu Hayabusa because he technically makes them a massive joke otherwise that he can just end them whenever he wants and kinda comes off as dumb that he would only let the Mugen-Tenshin handle it.
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You know that's not my point Xhominid...
My point wasn't that Dimensions' retcons are defensible. My point was that hardly any character is "necessary" in the way that Baji was presenting the term. His alleged criteria for what makes Hayabusa unique among the other characters just doesn't hold up.
Note that I was responding to Baji's comment, not Raansu's nor Atahotaku's before it.
Xhominid The Demon Within
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I was more going against the defense you made against Baji rather than the fact you agreed or disagreed. You can say it's also a rebuttal against @KasumiLover post more often than not.
her name is supposed to be spelled like this actually.
bond76876
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hitomi would win easly
werewolfgold
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Not to add to the derailment, but do we want Raidou and Genra to be real threats or what? Raidou came in and manhandled both Ayane and Hayate and whatever other parts of the village during his original excursion. He already had Taskmaster powers, and was apparently powered up even further by DOATEC. And then Kasumi, a plucky teen with gumption, was supposed to win...by herself? Who does she think she is? Cassie Cage? lol
Maybe Ryu could've sat out the Genra fight, and they should probably do something about Ryu's OP-ness overall, but I have no problem with Kasumi and Ayane needing some backup in general.
Cassie Cage vs. Shinnok should've been Cassie/Jacqui/Jin/Takeda vs. Shinnok wish Cassie landing the final blow. There. I fixed MKX's story. lol
Why would anyone list the cars in DOA6?
Ninoasker
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a normal karate fighter win easily against an actual ninja that can even fricking teleport? in her dreams lol
this must be the most random request i’ve seen about this game so far