Petition to bring back LEON as DLC!
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SilverKhaos
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Bass, Ninjas, and Juggles debunk your statement, good sir.
SilverKhaos
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Just popped into my head while playing 3rd Strike.
Leon should gain Alex's leaping necksnap DDT. Could link/end with him in the mount stance.
Also, his Headbutt. He has a regular headbutt, but I think he should be able to link into it through a regular punch. Tina has a move like that "high kick+grab equals scissor kick". So Leon straight punch +grab becomes him grabbing them by the face and pulling them in for a headbutt.
Leon should gain Alex's leaping necksnap DDT. Could link/end with him in the mount stance.
Also, his Headbutt. He has a regular headbutt, but I think he should be able to link into it through a regular punch. Tina has a move like that "high kick+grab equals scissor kick". So Leon straight punch +grab becomes him grabbing them by the face and pulling them in for a headbutt.
Takeda-sama
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What's unrealistic about Brad Wong? (Excluding the handstand throw, I guess)
Takeda-sama
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The ninjas use and imaginary fighting style anyway, not a martial art that actually exists, so they aren't comparable to Leon who is supposed to be doing sambo. I guess you're right about some moves Bass has, as well as juggles, but I think juggles are fairly necessary for the competitive nature of doa where as Leons entire move set isn't. Granted there are some characters with a ridiculous move or 2 who are supposed to use an actual fighting style like Zack's airborne sonic the hedgehog spin... Lol...
SilverKhaos
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1) Ninjas do not get excused for using fictional styles of ninjitsu, any more than Zack is excused for being a self taught muay thai fighter.
2) Everyone is doing high flying, stylized moves with zero regard for physics. Seeing the strongest character send people flying fits in just fine, especially since you get the same results from anyone else doing a simple punch or kick.
3) Juggles are not a necessity, they are simply an optional tool, like any other attack option.
4) I will grant you that DOA is the closest thing to an actual fight we can get, but thats even more reason to include Leon, since he's got one of the more practical movesets.
5) Mila has a similar "realistic" fighting style to Leon and Bayman, but just like Bayman and Leon, she too can send people flying with little effort.
6) Leon is not supposed to be doing Sambo. He was back when he was a Bayman replacement in DOA2, but by DOA4, he is different enough that it warrants not being called Sambo anymore. What it is, I don't know, but he's much more direct than that now.
KwonJigglypuff
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Just call his fighting style "Street Fighting", "Desert Brutality" or "Magic Turban", who cares. He is unique and we need him in the cast, we need that "individuality" (like TN say, they used to love that word). That's it. 
SilverKhaos
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Just call his fighting style "Street Fighting", "Desert Brutality" or "Magic Turban", who cares. He is unique and we need him in the cast, we need that "individuality" (like TN say, they used to love that word). That's it.
Just call it "Brutality" for now. Or more seriously, "Brawling".
PJudge
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Can't like this enough. Desert Brutality. Yes.Just call his fighting style "Street Fighting", "Desert Brutality" or "Magic Turban", who cares. He is unique and we need him in the cast, we need that "individuality" (like TN say, they used to love that word). That's it.
I think we can all agree that the point is that Leon deserves to return (as with Ein and Tengu).
Another argument would be anything that Gen Fu does, I mean come on, he's what, 80? And he's catching people after sending them 10 feet in the air? If we're going to pick on something unrealistic, look at that. At least Leon has the physical build to make it look reasonable.
Elite Venom
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So by your logic, just because YOU don't like Leon and he isn't "popular" that he shouldn't be in the game? Oh that's right we're talking about a character that has been with DOA for quite some time now and yet abominations like Rig and Mila and the god awful Virtua fighters guests are allowed to be in the game? Like really? You can't be serious...
Zeo
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Don't you talk about Rig and the VF characters like that!
I want to have the beach DLC show up and in the first match you play for it Leon rises from the sand and you fight him instead,once you beat him you unlock him,Ein,and the stage.
Sorry I'm just in the stupid idea kind of mood.
Sorry I'm just in the stupid idea kind of mood.
Raansu
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Cry more.
Raansu this is just a thread dedicated to bringing AWARENESS to the fact that certain fans do want him back,we aren't nor do we even have the capability of preventing TN from taking care of other important matters regarding DOA5 so why you insist on doing this is beyond me
SilverKhaos
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Aye. I'll agree that that abomination Jake Muller...er...Rig, shouldn't have been added in, but I actually like Mila. She's like the Tina to Leon's Bass.
Takeda-sama
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My Judo instructor is over 70 and he can lift and throw 150 kg man, so I don't find that unrealistic assuming gen fu has done martial arts his entire life since age 8. The height of like 15 feet on the other hand is unrealistic. lol
SilverKhaos
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and my grandpa is almost 80 but still far more physically fit than most people you'd ever meet younger than him, short of bodybuilders and pro wrestlers. All thanks to doing plain old hard work his whole life keeping his strength up. Like today we were downing trees and hauling them out of the ditch than taking the wood all the way back to the the house then splitting it then stacking it up at the house. and I never broke a sweat, and he did better than I did.
Point being, you will only be frail in old age if you weren't active in life (barring a disease or something hereditary)
Takeda-sama
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1) uhm, yes they do. lol They use a FICTIONAL STYLE. Muay Thai is, how do u say it again? Oh yea, REAL. U cant have a person supposedly doing 'Muay Thai' and then make half their moveset like Brads Zui Quan because it doesn't make any sense. Zacks move set is fairly like actual muay thai anyway apart from the airborne sonic the hedgehog and the jumping splits which is more of a taekwondo thing.
2) If you change Leons supposed style to something else then it comes CLOSE to making sense. CLOSE. If Leon is a paramilitary fighter he should have paramilitary techniques. Do you know what most world military's teach? Because I can assure you they don't teach spear throwing. If you changed him so that he's no longer paramilitary and no longer does sambo, then I agree you could keep the move set. That being said, if u did those 2 things I dont really think he'd be Leon anymore anyway.
3) Juggles are the most used source of guaranteed damage. Guaranteed damage is essentially what sets a good player apart from a bad player in this game. Juggles are pretty necessary to doa.
4) I never said doa is the closest to an actual fight u can get. That'd be VF. DOA has characters with the closest movesets to the martial arts they represent, more significantly with characters like brad Wong, Christie, Mila, Rig, etc. I am of course excluding the ninjas from this as they use a fictional style. The physics and general game play of VF is much more like a real fight than DOA.
5) No the hell she doesn't. lol Mila does MMA. MMA is not the same as Sambo. MMA is a mixture of the more basic techniques of all the common martial arts blended into a cage match. Sambo is a paramilitary art used in war zones designed not to tap people out but to straight up break their leg in half. Sambo is more of a mixture of Judo, greco roman wrestling, Russian folk wrestling and Muay Thai. It's specific and focused on throws locks elbows and knees. MMA in not specific. It isn't concentrated on specific principles. She has a realistic style, yes, but that same style is not very much like Sambo if you know about both. Also she can 'send people flying with little effort' because of the nature of doa's physics. Why do you assume unrealistic physics warrants unrealistic move sets which are claimed as a form of actual martial art? Thats ridiculous.
6) When have the game developers ever said Leon does anything other than Sambo? About half his moves are actual Sambo and the other half are ridiculous. If he's not doing Sambo why is half his move set still Sambo and why didn't TN inform us of his random style change? Also how the hell could he know anything else given the story?
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