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Raansu
Raansu
She got some nerfs that made her less stupid than she was in 5, but she still literally has every tool in the book to the point you might as well just give her an air throw. She's already fucking got everything else. Top tier crushes, tracking moves with pushback that basically makes them safe, guaranteed setups out the ass......An OH that guarantees a launcher or a FR....ya she totally needs buffs *rolls eyes*
Rose Flare
Rose Flare
I think Marie rose needs a bit of a buff on her damage. Leiloops is still good. Nykko kicks my ass with her lol
Raansu
Raansu
MR has excellent tools. She just needs to do more damage.
Hold_Junkie93
Hold_Junkie93
Black moon thinking Lei-Fang needs buff, I think stems from FTs not existing. I wouldn't even say, LF got the Christie treatment. She seems the same utility wise. Having a blast with her . If we get down to brass tacks, almost every character feels weaker because of 6 changing or rather keeping some things there as to remind us of old wounds at this point.
Hold_Junkie93
Hold_Junkie93
Playing VF opens the mind on what characters are truly capable off, I think people should embrace utility as a great factor, potential mind games within a yomi based game already etc People talking about DoA like SFV characters not being able to fight like a hen with its head cut off, they're automatically bad. let's face it already. DoA6 is garbo. It influences people's decision making too much.
Raansu
Raansu
Some of her BT stuff is shorter, but that's because stun threshold is shorter, but yes, utility wise she's exactly the same. Her losing her obnoxious FT setups applies to pretty much most of the cast and thats a system thing not a character thing. And ya, DoA6 is pretty much ass. It may improve over time since vanilla 5 was pretty terrible too, but we'll see. It certainly has the potential to be extremely good.
Hold_Junkie93
Hold_Junkie93
It does and I wish for the best, for everyone.
Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
All I ask from Christie is for her to get her 4T reset throw back. Her strike & stun game is fine and the nerfs were fair with regards to DOA6's gameplay. Though Christie more or less having no throw game (aside from in a corner) in a game where throws are quite integral to the gameplay is bollocks. No reason to nerf her 4T from her pressure game.
Raansu
Raansu
She doesn't need her reset throw back. For that matter, any 9 framer shouldn't have a reset throw to begin with.
Onryoki
Onryoki
@Raansu please shut up. She clearly needs 4T
Brute
Brute
Nobody should have a reset throw. Period.
Raansu
Raansu
@Onryoki No she doesn't. Reset throws in a game with no throw breaks are already pretty dumb and shouldn't be a thing, but a 9 framer definitely shouldn't have one. Even Rikuto agree's with that sentiment and he's usually not fussy about mechanics like I am.
Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
Honoka & Phase-4 have one along with i9 jabs. Christie's 4T left her at +4 (albeit behind).
Brute
Brute
3+ wrongs don't make a right.
Raansu
Raansu
And neither of those should have them either. Again, as I said. 9 framers definitely should not have reset throws.
Onryoki
Onryoki
You act like 9 framers are these overpowered characters.
Hold_Junkie93
Hold_Junkie93
It just forces guesses in a game with pretty high damage for tossing people with or without hi-counter. No throw escape or big visual cues for throws beyond OHs. So, I can see the concern. It's not like Wolf in VF burning hammering you 3 times and you're dead with full HP because you chose to block and tech wrong.
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Raansu
Raansu
I never said they were overpowered, but use some logic here. You really think its ok to give characters with the fastest jabs and some with the fastest jabs and mids in the game a reset throw? Reset throws should be limited to the grapplers honestly.
Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
Would you be fine if Hitomi had no reset throw?
MasterHavik
MasterHavik
Christie has good crushes but eh damage. Also what tracking move pushes you back. All her tracking doesn't do that. Her throw game stinks and yay setups you can hold out of. She does have a good option agaisnt break hold at least. No tracking lows really hurts and her lows were very slow. The reset throw is whatever but man mila can have a 15 frame low that track when my 14 frame low can't do that.
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