Free Step Dodge

Its not pointless, its what makes the character special

LoL... because they were lacking in that Department ?

I think not... they are both already unique regardless of execution requirements.

Infact the FSK itself is pretty special. its a Tracking High Kick Launcher/Relauncher and a Frame Trap... thats a very special move.... making it hard to do has done nothing to make it more Special.

Sindel was executed by Nightwolf, and she was low-tier... does she count?

If you mean DOA, Raidou.

If you mean DOA solely playing on the net, Jacky.

If the FSK was easy to do any joe blow would be able to play Jacky thus taking away from the sense of "special-ness". I.e. the FSK would feel like any other move if it was easy to perform. As for Phase-4, without her teleports, she'd just be a gimped Kasumi clone.

@Lulu In Jackys case no but in phase 4's case yes. If p4 didnt have her teleports she would literally lose the only thing that makes her different from just a Kasumi clone

Alpha Patroklos

Cyber Sub Zero/Cyrax MKX

Extra leniency for when you play Phase 4 though. Jacky's case however you'd have to be spot on on hit confirm. That is a lot harder than the extra window that Phase 4 has. Phase 4 is quick & gets huge damage on CH. Jacky is the moderate of the cast who has one move that gives him "advantage" with a terrible fate that you'll need a solid connection to perform it and even use it in juggles. Completely different here.

El Fuerte

@Fiend Busa man, poor cyrax, how the hell do you make a character who not only sucks but has some of the trickiest conversions in the game?almost makes me feel bad for him, almost (I still have mk9 scars)

@Cr!msonWarrior el fuerte? But he's actually really good if you can nail his trickier stuff

@Bacaww

Once Again... I'm not against her Teleports... I'm against how difficult they are to perform.

LoL... I could have sworn I made that clear.... am I not saying these right ?

@Force_of_Nature
LoL... Thats my point exactly. I took me over 3 months to get my FSK consistency above 60% and in the end... its no different than any other move.

I mean if you follow that reasoning to its logical conclusion then you can make A Standard jab "Special" by making it a Just Frame.

Also... whats wrong with any ol' Joe being able to do it ?

Can't think of anyone. Exceled pretty good with Alpha Partroklos/setsuka in soul caliber 4 and 5, will always be my main. Same with C.viper and Sakura in USF4. I'd say Yun-seong in soul Calibur IV was pretty worthless.

DOA: Raidou,
Tekken: Lee, Steve (Before EVO)

Thats the most I can think of for now.

@Lulu theres a reason why the teleports are difficult, Phase 4 is a high risk high reward character if the teleport were very easy to do she would just get huge free damage everytime and be unbalanced

@Bacaww
LoL.... Phase 4 is weakest character in the game....

Also trying to balancing a character by making them difficult only works if you make then SUPER DIFFICULT so that shes unreliable even in the hands of The Beast.

As it is right now even I can nail her BNBs for 3 hours before I start messing them up... and on my system I can do half of her max damage Juggles reliably.

The risk with Phase 4 is not that "you might drop her Teleports"

the risk is her limited options to open up opponents leaves her open to punishment.

If anything making the right read with Phase 4 is more difficult than any of her Teleports....

There is no free damage for her... she has to try hard to get it.

Infact making her Teleports easier might help people realise that.

@Lulu Weakest character in the game? lmao, you obviously dont know what youre talking about. Phase 4's neutral is mediocre but she still has tools to open up opponents that are safe, one of the best damage potentials in the game, very fast moves, good throws and holds. I never said that there was free damage for her, she would get free damage if her teleports were easier to execute like you said.