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Anyone notice anything interesting? That side step at 16:16 was kind of suspect :/

From what I've noticed, her frame data on block seems to be copy-pasted from 5, and the new moves she has don't really do much. Hopefully the patch brings some changes that make her tool set feel refreshed somewhat, as there's very little to experiment with currently.

Helena may change after the day one patch, but this is what I noticed from the Deluxe Demo (all tested on mid-weight): 214P+K bounds now. You can follow up with 6P4P > 4PK > 6P+K. 214P isn't a SDS now, so the follow ups aren't guaranteed. BKO P+K has surprising range. Might be useful for...

[1:21:00] Commentators saying Helena is bad due to losing a crush? Which one is that? I did notice that her BKO 4K no longer force techs, that hurts pretty bad :/

Just a couple of ranked matches

I couldn't find a thread to post this in so I created one. Apologies if there is an appropriate thread that I missed. Anyway I was looking for some feedback on my Tina. I've just started playing her, she's a lot of fun but I'm pretty certain I'm not using her right haha! Thanks in advance

I'm trying pick Ayane up as a sub so any feedback from the Ayane forums? I'm definitely having issues with mix up. I've mained Helena since DOA2 on the Dreamcast so I'm a bit too hardwired into her play style. Cause of that my subs are always kind of shit. Thanks in advance :)

Just because I'm obsessed with getting guaranteed damage with Helena I came up with a SDS guaranteed launch. It ain't great but Helena gave me fuck all to work with: Light / Mid / Heavy: 33P > 8P > 214P4P > 4PPP Alpha-152: 33P > 8P > 214P4P > 4K > 4PPP When you land 214P the next 4P is...

There is only a 1 frame window for error when slow escaping Helena's 9K after one of those SDS's so it is extremely hard to do. Even in tournament play it is rarely done. So it is safe to treat it as a pseudo-guaranteed launch.

Those SDS's are +15, 9P is i14 with one additional frame added for activation making it i15. It would need to be i13 with the one additional frame for it to be guaranteed. Might as well use 9K as it is also i14 but offers more damage.

A few matches I've played recently. Bit rusty but getting back into it :) Skip to 0:24

Helena's 22/88(P), 6P(P) & 3PP(P) all guarantee 3P & 33P as follow ups. So if you bring the opponent to the point of CB with any of these moves, the guaranteed 33P will launch the opponent. This video shows some examples with a non-guaranteed combo at the end.

I just bought Helena's ninja costume on the xbox one but it ain't letting me use it, any help? Thanks

Great, I'll give it a shot. I just un installed the entire game so I'll try it when it finishes installing an hour from now haha!

I just downloaded the update on my xbox one and it still isn't working, any help guys?

No new combos based on her moveset, but floor bounces enable these combos on the stage The Danger Zone when using 33P4P as an air juggle ender: Featherweight: 3P+K > BKO 3P+K > 33P > 33P4P Lightweight: 3P+K > 66KP(P) Midweight: 3P+K > 236PKP Heavyweight: 3P+K > 33P4P

Anyone found a use for BKO 66P yet? It's hard to find legit uses for anything when you're stuck fighting the AI. It can't really be used in combos so I can't think of what to do with it. Team Ninja obviously put it there for a reason, although they might of just wanted to add something for LR...

I tend to use BKO P+K after ducking and causing the opponent to whiff. At i19 it's not fast but it gives an instant launch and it has surprising good crush properties after ducking mid string.

Slightly off topic but has anyone been able to find Core Fighters on the XB1 marketplace? I can only find the DLC.