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I'm hoping one of the 3 new characters has a very...mix-up oriented playstyle. Those are usually my favorite.

I have to admit, though. I'm glad to see they didn't buff his taunt. *puts on a hazmat suit*

Exactly. If the only way you knew how to play Helena was with her PFT, then there is just something inherently wrong with the way you play. She has many tools apart from that which help to keep her afloat, and you should never rely on one setup to get you by. If you didn't you have nothing to...

Helena, because she's the most badass character in the game. Her mother was assassinated, as was her father, she was kept prisoner by the man who ordered the hits, murdered people herself, then blew up A WHOLE FUCKING BUILDING IN A BOSS CAPE AND STOOD IN THE FIRE! She's like if Cinderella and...

They lowered her weight class? She was actually a normal light-weight in 5, a little heavier than Sarah and a few others. I remember her being the lightest back in DOAD. Did she reclaim her title as lighest character?

I guess we'll have to see if he has any "hidden features" or other new stun types that players haven't stumbled across yet.

Sorry, when I said "they" I was referring to the developers.

I used to have it narrowed down to only 3 weight classes too (light, mid, heavy) until I found juggles that only worked on feather weights and others that didn't work on welter weights. Akira probably has similar combos somewhere buried in there

Anyone miss the style of her 33T back from DOA4? I thought it was far cooler looking in that game =P

I don't think they "listened" to anyone, to be quite honest. Don't get me wrong, I love DOA and always will, but seeing Eliot take the nerf bat to the groin makes me think they just did what either a VERY select few thought or what they thought.

Huh...Pai's wall kick can actually give positive frames at max distance. Who knew?

Fun fact, by the way. Some of you probably know, but I always figured the move was trash because of the absurdly long recovery animation on it, so I never tested it out. But, her :4::P::+::K: at a wall (her wall climbing kick) is ONLY -2 frames, and hitting them at max distance is...

Ugh, he might be a nightmare for Pai with that Sabaki thingy. Well...might be. I really have no idea :D

Which light weight class? Keep in mind that certain juggles work only on the lightest of the lights, and others work on the rest.

Well I remember them saying he'd practically be the same, so it doesn't surprise me.

I warned everyone. It's Nerfy's Law. Whatever CAN get nerfed, WILL get nerfed.

Question - did they give her back the old properties of PPPPPP (AKA they act like 3PPPP and do a decent job of floating the opponent) or do they still cause them to sink like a rock?

As short as Leon's movelist is and how simple-minded his combos used to be, I'm REALLY excited to use him again. I went really in-depth with him back in Dimensions, and I got pretty good with him, so I'm happy to see his return and looking forward to training with the strongest man in the world.

It just means that both versoin of Zack':4::H::+::K: (string version and stand-alone version) share the new properties - a different bound type. Also, in the string :P::P::6::P: ___ , I believe he means that the third punch is now a stun on Normal hit. If that's not what he meant, he can easily...