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Her mix-up was already beastly. Adding new moves and transitions only helps. And I know we're not sure, that's why I said "if." xD But regardless, she won't be bad at the very least.

I still don't think she needs her force techs to compete. She has damage, great mix-up, a nice throw game (which will be even better if that new sit-down stun of hers does guarantee a CB, since it'll be a HCH combo), evasion and decent-enough frames.

Will I ever get a chance to play with you? I've seen you in lobbies a bazillion times, yet you're incredibly reclusive and never seem to join the queue =/ it makes me sad.

Also, interesting note, the lightest characters in the game (Eliot, Hitomi, Kokoro, Mila, and Sarah) can be hit with the :4::6::H::+::K: bound after her :2::4::T: > :6::6::H::+::K: > :4::K: It also hits them at the perfect frame, so you can do the just frame version of the combo as well. Just...

I get that a lot of people want the DOA4 Helena back, but if they did that, they'd have to tone her damage down to that of Pai. That said, I may pick her up again and main her. The only reason I ever dropped her was because I really hated 33P4P spam and getting yelled at by morons for not...

Anyone have the link for the saved stream footage of today? I'd appreciate it (:

Here is the (constantly updated) list of changes made to Pai in DOA5U. :P::P::P::7::K: and :3::P::P::P::7::K: now have the same blowback properties as :P::P::K::K:, but they cannot wall-splat. :h::+::K: now has a stun that can be followed up with other hits (a high stun that leaves you in BT)...

Alpha wasn't that good. Not that she was bad, but she's still basically a glass canon with little defensive options.

Well, keep in mind that playing against a character that you don't know the movelist/potential of is difficult. You can't read/anticipate them like you can a character you know, so I'm sure that played a part in it.

Why was Eliot, of all people, nerfed?

Hmmm...looks like I may be picking up Helena once again. I'm happy to know that 33P4P may no longer be the end-all-be-all finisher for her, so maybe Helena will stop looking ugly xD Also, has anyone tried Pai in training at all? I don't care to know much, just if her 66H+K bounds again after a...

I still think her 66T is one of the best throws in the entire game =P

Today's my 21st (: It's nice to be out of the limbo that is 20

Eh, that's one we're not too sure on. Ryu's just weird. Feel free to change that one if you want. I just put a number there that didn't tip the scales one way or another, mostly because his Izuna holds are devastating and she's at a loss of options once he ranges her out. Of course, close up...

That match-up is tricky to pin down. It's difficult weighing in speed vs. damage/crushes. Paris and I considered it as 4-6 in Bayman's favor because Tank Roll will easily shut out most of Pai's mix-ups. She's one of the most linear characters in the game, and it doesn't help that most of her...

I'd just like to throw out there: If you're entire argument is that what you said is an opinion, why are you so against hearing those of everyone else? I guess that's where I'm lost...

I just realized. Teleporting will be really bad against Bass...

That would be why I prefer SCIV. I dislike all the changes they did to the characters and their movelists. Plus, I wasn't too fond of random wake-up-invincible-frame-supers, either. But that's just me.