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Well... okay, you do have a point there. I'm actually surprised that they didn't put Tina in one of her super skimpy outfits.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. Although these aren't custom either. These are all from DOAX2.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Lisa. I assume you're right though. Hopefully they'll show us the rest of the swimsuits after Helena, Mila, and Pai are revealed.

I wouldn't call any of those bikinis skimpy. They're among the more "respectable" outfits from DOAX2. If they had chosen outfits like the Fortune, the Electra, or the Alioth, then they'd be skimpy. I do agree that Hitomi looks really nice there. I think I like her's the best.

Very nice! I certainly do not regret pre-ordering the CE. I wonder how revealing Kokoro's will be when she sweats. I wonder why they didn't show Sarah's.

Honestly I loved pretty much every stage in DOAU. DOA3 had some really nice ones as well. DOA4 was all crap. So I won't list any specifics. I'd just like to have a bunch of DOAU and DOA3 stages back, and none from DOA4.

Ha ha. That's ridiculous.

I admit that I have difficulties fighting Brad, but I can agree that he's gotta be down there. On another topic, Like Jefff mentioned, I think Tengu should be a little higher though? Any thoughts?

Tina?

I could see that. He sucks big time, but he does have a few nice things going for him. I don't know if he should be in D with Bayman, or in low C.

I'd definitely be interested in playing her if that were the case.

Itagaki came to Bungie requesting that Master Chief be in DOA4, but Bungie didn't want to allow it due to "storyline restrictions". So instead they worked together to create Nicole-458, including her moveset, her backstory, and Nassau Station.

True, but DOA's tengu actually has a name which is why it's so weird that the game calls him "Tengu". I don't know if Kuma or Panda have names. If they don't, calling them "Kuma" and "Panda" is fine, though very uncreative.

Yeah, as a Leon player, I've suffered from the ground glitch many times before. I didn't fully understand how it works, but I know I'm in for trouble when Leon suddenly starts to tackle when I didn't want him to.

Ha ha, I suppose. It's just always been weird to me that he's referred to in-game as "Tengu" instead of "Bankotsubo". It's like calling everyone else "Human" instead of "Tina", or "Bayman", etc. I don't understand why they did that.

Okay cool. For now I'll put that list in the first post, and hopefully we can get more input on it. Yeah, I guess you're right. I just expected her to be lower for some reason. She does seem better than those placed lower than her. It definitely is.

Really? Why did you put Leon and Tina so high? I've never heard anything good about them. You also didn't put Eliot or Lisa on the list.

I found an old tier list from the tourney days awhile back. It was made by Perfect Legend though, and everyone at the website I found this at was trash talking PL, saying that he had no idea what he was talking about. Because of that, I didn't accept the list as an official "community" list...

Is there an official community tier list for DOA4? I understand that DOA4 is despised by the community, but I still find it odd that there doesn't seem to be a tier list for it. Maybe no one cares, but I'd like to see one, even though we'll all likely never touch this game again after DOA5...

Well, in DOA4 my top two mains were Bankotsubo and Leon, and my alternate mains were Eliot and Helena. Since both of my top two are not returning, I intend to start out working with Helena and Eliot, as well as Bayman, as a substitute for Leon. I'll just have to toy around with the others to...