GodlyHades
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Well that Mid better guardbreak since they took away some of our guardbreakers lol I wish we had more gameplay of it since it comes out next month
Any announced changes for ryu in UDoA5?
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It won't, seeing as it looks to be a decently safe/quick.
In general it seems Ryu's punch strings will consist of PP4P2P/4P2P and 33T mix-ups, seing as 4P2P seems to be + on NH now.
GodlyHades
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LOL this is going to be so much fun to use on Helena and Kokoro since they duck the most when fighting Busa. Though he is getting another mid and I heard it was fast. Have you seen it?
UpSideDownGRUNT
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Master posted a list of changes for Hayabusa somewhere a couple of weeks ago. Does anyone know, where? I can't find it anymore
weeks ago? the only one I know of is the E3 changes which he posted on DoAW
Hayabusa: currently has a new low throw into izuna drop. 33+throw which looks identical to his advance low punch hold.
Has a new while rising handstand looking move that is a 3in1 it seems since it hits so fast but doesnt seem as powerful as his triple kick attack. Its done WR,f+k which can sometime be annoying if you want to get 4f+k after a crouching attack but there has been ways to avoid this since doa2 so it will take some time to get used to. Its unsafe.
Hayabusas 3f+k no longer guard brakes and is a new animation that hits you twice now. Also unsafe even in string aka 4pk.
Because of the new kick animation after the move mentioned above hayabusa can no longer do that string ender against wall bounces on most characters.
Triple kicks has a new ender for mix up which is now f+k,k,p. its a mid punch. I believe its unsafe since the kick ender is still a guard break and mostly safe.
Hayabusa has somewhat of a front flip cancel for some moves now. He can do WR, handstand into 9p to cancel out of the last animation. He can also do it from 4f+k and sidestep k. I believe there might be one more he can do it from but currently cannot remember.
Advance mid kick hold is allowed in stun and believe all characters can do that now.
9k has the hard knock down like hayates p+k move so hayabusa can no longer do qcb p into 9k anymore which usually guaranteed 6p. He still gets follow ups though just like everyone else.
GodlyHades
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Ive never seen Hayabusa's Handtsnd skills before besdies the handstand throw. Is there a video where I could watch it?
GodlyHades
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Brute should me an mod. Just sayin. XDD.
That was a badass storyline in the first video, I wonder what that scroll said. Now back to the handstands: They look useful like brad's but idk if we will be able to unleash them quick against fast character like christie, koko, etc,.
Well, those videos aren't mine, just some random ones I found on YT.
Fans speculate it was a message from Hayate asking for Ryu's aid in the upcoming assault on DOATEC in DOA4.
They're not about speed, they're about mix-ups. For example, PP2K into hand-stand is a way better mix-up than his current PP2K move.
GodlyHades
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LOL Ryu had a PP2K XD?!!?! Thought only Hayate did XD.
Yeah. It's his 1K (that stupid low poke that leaves him negative on normal hit and can transition into ongyoin or the charged P guard break).
Or hold the third punch. Y'know, the third hit the the string. The third hit in punch stings usually being a mid P so people gradually start to just mid P hold on third hit on reaction? Still useful for Izuna baits, but y'know.
Also, that was revealed some time ago.
Third hit is unholdable if the second hit connects (unless they nerfed it of course, lol)
That's a natural combo? Damn, I never knew. Always free-cancel the third hit to keep up the stun, lol.
yeah same, the only times I would actually go for the third hit is if i could get a free wall combo from the knockback.
SilverForte
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Ya know, if the properties are the same and it is a natrual combo, I'd say that's really good as it will put them at high or maximum threshold without knocking them over like it used to be.
UpSideDownGRUNT
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3PPP seems alot like it's DoA3.2 iteration as I noticed 3PPP also did not cause knock back and caused a stun in 3.2, if it's the same in 5U then that's pretty awesome.
MajesticBlue
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You didn't know about the goodness that was the 3P(PP) NC at the wall? It was like one of his only good things before the patch haha. Should have read my guide bro. (lulz) The fact that the third hit KDed made it not super worthwhile to throw it out unless at the wall like EvilJun said. I wonder if it is gonna interact with the wall. I don't know if I want it to or not. It seems his wall game could be nerfed. Losing PP4PK as a wall ender isn't the end of the world but kinda sucks. That new mid kick looks lame.
Based on the way he was designed in Doa 5 I have a feeling it is no longer an NC. All most all of Ryus safe moves and things worth doing KDed. He was designed to have to take risks to start up his stun game. The patch changed it a little though.
Based on the way he was designed in Doa 5 I have a feeling it is no longer an NC. All most all of Ryus safe moves and things worth doing KDed. He was designed to have to take risks to start up his stun game. The patch changed it a little though.
Most of you probably noticed this, but after being tagged in by Momiji, he immediately did ongyoin 6K. Could be a tag-specific thing, or it could mean his has that move outside ongyoin, which would be a nice range tool that's decently safe and crushes highs without being in gimmick stance. IIRC it could be done by normal standing 66K in DOA4, but obviously that's his GB knee in DOA5.