DOA5LR (Casual) suggestions for Team Ninja

KwonJigglypuff

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Hi Team Ninja, here are some suggestions for the next Dead or Alive 5 Last Round!
I hope you will appreciate the work, as the community tried to gather pertinent ideas and serious requests all together. The idea is to please a majority of fans.

We asked them to write in each post :
- 3 retro stages
you really want to see (in order to have a Top 5)
- 1 legacy costume for a maximum of 3 characters (in order to have 1 cost. per char.)
- optional details : tag move/intro/outro, winpose, old move, small customization, hair options, etc.

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STAGES
1. Aerial Gardens
2. Demon's Church
3. Burai Zenin
4. Freedom Survivor
5. Azuchi

Great Opera and Seaside Market come after.

COSTUMES
Kasumi's Sailor NG3
Ayane's Classic Ninja
Tina's Leather Jacket (DOA2 version)
Lei Fang's Original Kung Fu
Helena's Opera Dress
Hitomi's Blue Vest
Kokoro's French Pianist
Lisa's Carnival
Christie's Red Trenchcoat
Momiji's Indigo Happi
Rachel's Diao Chan
Nyotengu as Bankotsubo
Ryu's Hairdown Classic
Hayate's Ninja Costume
Gen Fu's Purple Chinese
Leon's Trenchcoat
Bayman's Special Agent
Zack's DJ Jacket
Jann Lee's Chinese Vest
Ein's Dimensions Casual
Brad's Tailcoat
Bass's Feather Costume
Eliot's Sailor
Akira's Leather Jacket
Jacky's Red Suit
Pai Chan's Red Classic
Sarah as Ulala
Alpha as Dural

GENERAL

Fight
- A new color for the health bar
- Return of stair throws
- Weather options (day/night, snow/rain) for some stages (Sakura, Desert, Forest, etc.)
- More cliffhangers
- Add DOA1, DOA4's club remixes and VF5FS musics for Akira, Sarah, Pai and Jacky
- Bring back KO replays
- Improved hair and cloth physics, no more clipping
- Proper wind physics during victory animations
- Add characters' portraits/thumbails HUD above health bar like in DOA5A
- Glasses for men
- Fix the typos in some profiles in the screen of the "Dead Or Alive" Stage
- Make sidesteps more drastic and evasive
- Make sure Guard Breaks give a real frame advantage
General
- Add an opening and a demo
- Add a bio for the characters (age, work, hobbies, mensurations, etc.) in CSS
- Add the possibility to see customization before choosing a character (hairstyle/accessories) in CSS
- Add a costume filter when choosing "random" in CSS
- Add the option to ban any costume from appearing : in a random fight (CPU), online, or in the CSS
- Add a color pallet to recolor some costumes
- Add a Gallery mode with old artworks, official CGI renders, contest fanworks, etc.
- Add single intros, tag intros and tag outros in Theater mode
- Add collectible figurines like in DOAD
- Add DJ, Monica, Tengu, Nyotengu (English) and Raidou system voices
- High resolution photos and video upload
Tag
- Normalize any and all stun and gravity/weight physics between singles and tag mode. Only one set of rules for gameplay so people can adjust more easily
- Make it so that Bass doesn't have the exact same win pose with Rig, Bayman, and Leon
- Add more tag-in voice clips where it would make sense (e.g. Ryu has none for Momiji or Rachel)
- Have characters fade out when they tag out rather than just disappearing into thin air
- If possible, do something about the sudden appearances/disappearances in the normal intros and win quotes. It's especially funny for ones such as Brad's win pose where you can see all around him for miles with no one there and then your tag partner just suddenly appears
- Allow special tag win poses to be viewable in the gallery
- Add the buddha danger zone in tag
Story
- Add new chapters for Nyotengu, Marie-Rose, Phase 4, Momiji, Rachel, Leon, Ein, Christie, Gen Fu and Lisa.
Arcade
- Add a rival scene (ex : Lei Fang vs Jann Lee), a boss (Alpha) and an ending
Survival
- Exclusive objects unlocking pictures and collectible figurines
Team Battle
- Possibility to fight on any tag stage
- Possibility to choose the CPU's characters
- A graph at the end of the fight like in previous DOAs
Online
- Improved netcode
- Add a mute capability for online
- Team Battle like in DOA4 and Survival
- Inclusion in the game of an additional kind of lobby: inside it each player can challenge anyone and immediately fight, so without having to wait his own turn as in "Winner Stays".

CHARACTERS
:alpha152:
Unique Tag Intro/Outro/Throws with Kasumi and Phase-4
Give Alpha-152 a third win pose

:akira:
Ride the Tiger or Statues remix
Removable headband option
Tag with Ryu or Kasumi

:ayane:
Add Butterfly particles effect during her teleports animations
Addition of Tag Throws for Ayane & Eliot and Ayane & Hitomi

:bass:
Return of the second old Tag Intro for Tina & Bass

:bayman:
Give him a 4th win pose, as the 3rd doesn't really count

:bradwong:
Hair down option
Fix the sub and dub of his third intro in non-Japanese versions : "Gentleness and vigor, lies and truth, obtain [them] and know [wisdom]"

:christie:
A Rig/Christie tag throw
Add a throw and/or OH throw striaight out of Christie's stance (so from 8 P+K/2P+ K)

:ein:
Being able to use his taunts during the "Get Ready" screen
Return of the old Tag Outro for Jann Lee & Ein

:genfu:
Have a tag interactions back with Brad and Helena

:hayate:
Add Black Feather particles effect during his animations
Removable mask/headband for most costumes

:helena:
A Lisa/Helena tag
A Bayman/Helena tag
Helena's dolphin stun
A reverence taunt
Her DOA4 "Valhalla" winpose
A white lace bow option
PP2KP (DOA4) back
Fix the synchronization of Helena's yells when she's in English

:hitomi:
Have her guard break back

:kasumi:
Her classic winpose where she teleports

:kokoro:
Her DOAD hair option

:lisa:
A white butterfly mask for her C11 (and rename the costume "La Mariposa")
A Lisa/Ein tag throw
Instead of a new haircut, maybe peacock feathers in her hair ?

:leifang:
A blu-ish hair option like in DOA2
Her DOA1 ponytail

:marierose:
Loose hair option
A white ribbon option
More moves in general
Make 236P safer
Give her a throw launcher
This move from her Rondo (4P+K. K+H) : ballet fouette (can do it 3 times/faster animation)
This move while running (with K+H) : ballet kick (weak launcher)
This guard break (33K+H) : ballet knee (in the ennemy's crotch/unique stun)
This flashy move (66K+H) : ballet roue (2 hits)
This combo ender (PPK+H) : ballet peacock (put her on backstance position)
This cute launcher (1K+H) : kitty heels (put her on backstance position/unholdable)
This low crush (236K) Wild Rose (low damage/no stun/only knockdown/2nd hit wall splat)
This high crush (1K) & (PP2K) Diamond Sweep (frame advantage on hit/mini-combo on CH)
This new follow-up after 8K(K) with delay

:mila:
A blue hair option
A Mila/Leon "mount tackle" tag throw
C7's hat can be toggled off, C5's apron can be toggled off

:momiji:
Hair down option
Som aikijustsu advanced holds
Fix her running animation glitch

:nyotengu:
Add Jintsuriki theme
Make her heavyweight
Fix the "flying glitch" (here at 0:55)

:phase4:
Fix Phase 4's victory animation in tag
Addition of Tag Intro/Outro/Throws for Phase-4 & Kasumi

:rachel:
Hair down and bob cut options
New moves in general
A Nyotengu/Rachel tag

:hayabusa:
Removable mask on most costumes
Add Leaves particles effect during his teleport animations
A Ryu/Nyotengu tag
Hair down option
A Ryu/Ayane tag intro/outro
A Ryu/Hayate tag intro
Fireball back as a charge move
PP6KP back
Make 66K_4K > ongyoin transitions optional
A winpose with his hawk
Allow Hayabusa to perform Izuna Drops over low ledges (such as in Lorelei, Street, etc.)

:sarah:
Short hair down option

:tina:
Brunette option
Her DOA2 'perfect' win pose

:zack:
Make 7KK the way it was in DOA2
Add DOA4's 236PPP
Let him have a 4T
Add DOA4's 236K back with fake roll
Add a new winpose

Hope it will work. :)
We are fighters!
 
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KwonJigglypuff

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I know it's bad to double post, but I'd like to show what I'm expecting from this thread.

- I want Great Opera, Freedom Survivor and Burai Zenin.
- I want Helena's opera dress (DOA4 ending), Lisa's C3 (DOA4) and Eliot's C3 (DOAD).
- I want a color pallet, an opening, a Helena/Lisa tag, Helena's Dolphin move, and a reverence taunt for Helena.
 
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Argentus

Well-Known Member
Stages
HK DOA tower
Snowy cliff
Vegas strip

Legacy costume
Leons trenchcoat

Optional
- mount tackle tag throws with mila and Leon.
- I wouldn't mind being able to toggle off Milas hair dye to see her natural brown hair. That or switch to blue dye. Scratch that I want her C2 but with the shirt swapped out for the c6 sports bra with the diner hat. And the option to toggle the button up off.
 

Keylay

Well-Known Member
Aerial Gardens (DOA2U), Demon's Church (DOA2U), The White Storm (DOAD)

Kasumi's C4 from DOA++ (Her blue ninja outfit with a sword)
Helena's C2 from DOA2 (White/blue opera dress)
Ayane's C2 from DOA2 (Orange outfit with purple bow)

Story mode that we had in DOA2-DOA4. I liked Story mode because you can choose the costume you want to see in the cutscenes.
 
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David Gregg

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Aerial Gardens (DOA2U), Demon's Church (DOA2U), Freedom Survivor (DOAD)

Legacy:
Eliot's C4 from DOAD (his school uniform which was DLC that I unfortunately was never be able to get. :/)
Banko outfit/skin for Nyo
Christie's C3 from DOA3 (red trenchcoat. It's about time Awesmic gets it. XD)

Other: You made this category too vague. It will be impossible to have a top 5 for this.
Edit: But I agree with Brute. Nerf Satan...Sarah to the ground.
 
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Brute

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Standard Donor
- Stages: Great Opera (DOA2U version) | Aerial Gardens (DOA2 version) | Burai Zenin (DOA2U version)

- Outfits: Ein's Denim Vest C2 (DOA2) | Christie Trenchcoat C3 (DOA3) | Lisa Mantle/Cape C5 (DOA4)

- I want Hayabusa to get buffed and Sarah to be nerfed so far below bottom tier she fades from observable view
 

Goarmagon

Well-Known Member
Standard Donor
GGPO or similarly useful netcode. Everything else is fluff in my opinion with all due respect to everyone here.
 

crapoZK

Well-Known Member
Standard Donor
Zack Mechanics:
-7KK to be like how it was in DOA2.
-DOA4 236PPP back.
-Have a 4T (Preferably the DOA2 one)
-DOA4 236K back, with the fake roll version.


Costumes:
Zack's Red Legacy (DOA2) | Zack's Green Muay Thai Outfit (DOA4) | Hayabusa's Long Hair Ninja Suit (DOA3)

Stages:
Burai Zenin (DOA2) | Aerial Gardens (DOA2) | The Spiral (DOA2)

Kelly.
 

XZero264

FSD | Nichol
Premium Donor
Stage: Classic Danger Zone (DOA2), Aerial Garden (night time complete with fireflies), and Demon Church (any version but I think the 2U version had the bell interaction and the Izuna drop from hell heaven).

Costume:
Leon's Trenchcoat
...Well...already have Bayman's orange outfit, Hayabusa's 2 C1 outfit, Bass' Cowboy outfit, Ein's outfits that matter in general...so that's it.

System:
Discussed this just this evening with some guys at SJ. Offensive holds recovery not being Hi-Counter when thrown.
 
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AsheMann21

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Stages: Aerial Gardens (DOA2) | Demon's Church (DOA2U) | Aquarium (DOA2U)

Costumes: Helena's C2 from DOA:Dimensions | Christie's red trench coat from DOA3 | Momiji's Indigo Happi

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Other ideas:
-New tag intros/outros and tag throws for:
1. Helena and Marie Rose
2. Nyotengu and Hayabusa
3. Lisa and Helena
-Bring back Gen Fu's tag intros/outros with Helena and Brad
-Fix texture for Lost World and Lorelei
-Add the character's eyes on the HUD
-Allow easier customisation before fighting like the Arcade version
-This win pose for Helena:
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EDIT: Fixed the netcode pls. I'm getting fed up with the lag
 
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Nuke-Nin

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Stages: Aerial Gardens (DOA2) | Demon's Church (DOA2U) | Aquarium (DOA2U)

Costumes: Helena's C2 from DOA:Dimensions | Christie's red trench coat from DOA3 | Momiji's Indigo Happi

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Other ideas:
-New tag intros/outros and tag throws for:
1. Helena and Marie Rose
2. Nyotengu and Hayabusa
3. Lisa and Helena
-Bring back Gen Fu's tag intros/outros with Helena and Brad
-Fix texture for Lost World and Lorelei
-Add the character's eyes on the HUD
-Allow easier customisation before fighting like the Arcade version
-This win pose for Helena:
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but Tengusl00t hates the ninjas.......
 

RoboJoe

Well-Known Member
STAGES:

It is so hard to pick only 3 stages, but I've narrowed it down.

Burai Zenin (DOA2U)
Koku An (DOA2U)
Dragon Hills (DOA2) note: NOT doa2u version

Honorable mentions:

Snow (DOA3)
Aerial Gardens (DOA2 or DOA2U)
Spiral (DOA2)

Costumes:

Bayman - DOA3: C2
Jann Lee - DOA2U: C1
Tina DOA2U: C2

Other:

Give Gen Fu a gun for some full screen attacks.
 

Rawbietussin

Well-Known Member
Stages:
• Bianca (DOA2)
• Great Opera (DOA2U Version)
• Freedom Survivor (DOAD)

Costumes:
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Others:
• Loose hair options for Ryu Hayabusa and Brad Wong
• White lace bow hair option for Helena Douglas
• Loose short hair option (from Sarah's C10) for Sarah Bryant
• Glasses options for all male characters
• White butterfly mask option for Lisa's C11 (and rename it as a La Mariposa costume)
• Gen Fu's tag interactions (intro/winposes) with Brad Wong and Helena Douglas
• Kasumi Alpha's theme (DOAD) for Phase 4
 

werewolfgold

Well-Known Member
Other:

Give Gen Fu a gun for some full screen attacks.
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But, anyway...

Stages
  • Freedom Survivor (DOAD)
  • Aerial Gardens (DOA2)
  • Aquarium (DOA3)
Costumes
  • Leon's red trench coat
  • Hayabusa's tuxedo
  • Zack's DOA4/DOAD default
Options
  • Tag
    • Normalize any and all stun and gravity/weight physics between singles and tag mode. Only one set of rules for gameplay so people can adjust more easily.
    • Give Marie, Phase 4, and Nyotengu the necessary tag accoutrements with other characters. Special intros, outros, throws, etc.
    • Make Helena and Lisa special tag partners.
    • Give Gen Fu back his tag intros/outros with Helena and Brad.
    • Add tag intro/outro for Hayabusa and Ayane.
    • Add tag intro for Hayabusa and Hayate. (Honestly, copy-pasting Hayabusa and Ein's would be sufficient if nothing else.)
    • Add tag throws for Ein and Lisa.
    • Add tag throws for Christie and Rig.
    • Basically, it's a good rule of thumb to not have tag pairings with special throws and no intro/outro or tag pairings with an intro/outro and no special throws.
    • Make it so that Bass doesn't have the exact same win pose with Rig, Bayman, and Leon.
    • Add more tag-in voice clips where it would make sense (e.g. Ryu has none for Momiji or Rachel).
    • Have characters fade out when they tag out rather than just disappearing into thin air.
    • If possible, do something about the sudden appearances/disappearances in the normal intros and win quotes. It's especially funny for ones such as Brad's win pose where you can see all around him for miles with no one there and then your tag partner just suddenly appears.
    • Allow special tag win poses to be viewable in the gallery.
  • Accessories
    • Add loose hair options for Momiji, Brad, and Hayabusa (at least).
    • More hair options for characters such as Rachel.
    • Maybe add more hair physics (e.g. the front part of Hayabusa's, Nyotengu's, or Helena's hair doesn't seem affected by wind at all).
    • Allow Hayabusa's mask to be removable on more of his costumes.
  • Other
    • An opening movie and demo mode when you boot up the game would be nice.
    • Add at least 1-2 more cliffhangers.
    • Add some weather options on a few stages such as rain.
    • Fix any and all typos seen in the background character profile screens of the Dead or Alive stage (e.g. Ein has Hayate's information, Kasumi, Ayane, and Hayate have ninjutsu spelled as "ninjutu").
    • Fix Momiji's run animation glitch.
    • Fix Phase-4's tag win pose animation glitch.
    • Fix glitches associated with characters flying into walls and having it not trigger the animation of them hitting the wall.
    • Make sidesteps more drastic and evasive.
    • Add portraits above the life bars.
    • Allow Hayabusa to perform Izuna Drops over low ledges (such as in Lorelei, Street, etc.).
    • Perhaps bring back stair throws if the requisite stages exist.
    • Fix the synchronization of Helena's yells when she's in English.
    • Give Hayabusa and Hayate their teleport particle effect motifs back. (It's especially weird for Hayabusa and Kasumi's tag intro pose where the camera has no leaves to actually focus on.)
    • Give Zack a third win pose.
    • Give Bayman a 4th win pose (I don't think his 3rd one counts).
    • Give Alpha-152 a third win pose (I don't see why not).
    • Buff Eliot.
    • Perhaps buff Phase 4.
    • Give Momiji some advanced holds in line with her Aikijutsu fighting style.
    • Expand upon Rachel's fighting style slightly and give her a few more attacks.
    • Buff textures.
    • Add costume filter so that people don't have to scroll through costumes that they can't use to get to the ones that they can on the character select screen. Either make it so you can hide unusable costumes or make it so those are last in the list.
    • Add a "rival" 7th stage match for characters in Arcade mode (e.g. Leifang would fight Jann Lee, Marie Rose would fight Helena, Hitomi would fight Hayate/Ein, etc.)
    • Have the final arcade match be against Alpha-152 or Phase-4.
    • Give the player something for completing arcade mode. It doesn't have to be a cinematic. But, a piece of artwork or something is fine (allow those to be viewable in the gallery).
I think that should cover it. I reserve the right to stealth edit the list, though.
 
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Nikotsumi

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Stages
-Aerial Gardens
-Seaside Market [?]
-Burai Zenin

Costumes
-Kasumi Tropical Sailor
-Ein DOAD C1
-Eliot DOAD C4

Other

-More cliffhangers
-Better Netcode
-A rainy stage
-Loose hair for Marie Rse
-New tag throws/intros/outros for all characters
-Buff Eliot
-Buff Phase-4
-Oh and yes, nerf Sarah
 

Shiranui

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I don't understand why we can't ask for costumes from design contests since in the trailer there are already two of them.
I want mine for Rachel that got a TN prize!! :p

Anyway, things i would like to have in DoA5LR:

-Rachel and Momiji alternative hairstyles and sunglasses.
-Rachel + Nyotengu special tag team, since Rachel is a fiend hunter and Nyo's a fiend (special intro, special win pose, special tag throw).
-Better netcode
-Rachel buff (new moves could be awesome, but I'm not expecting that much. After all is just a definitive DoA5 edition).
 
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