d3v
Well-Known Member
Read the article, even if the Gambit glitch did not out and out crash the game, it was tantamount to an instant "WIN" button and really, added nothing to the game.
Dead or Alive 5 - Known Bugs/Glitches
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Jefffcore
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There's nothing broken about that. It being accidental doesn't make it any more broken either.
What if it was intentional?
Julius Rage
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Imagine Jeff, if you bought a chess board.
Pretend there was a defect in the manufacturing of that particular line of chess boards and two of those orange blocks were parallel to each other.
Now imagine if you will that the manual that came with the game describes the entire game and mentions nothing about black players ability to take advantage of an extra orange block where a cream block should be.
So people, heres what I'm saying.
If all evidence points to it being a defect, it is - stop trying to over think these things.
A) The animation is not natural, Team Ninja doesn't make shitty animations.
B) Its not mentioned in any tutorial or guide.
C) A movement system that "Advanced" would have been outlined by someone from Team Ninja at some point. Because its such a great fucking idea! (Oh wait, it isn't.)
D) At some point someone from Team Ninja who plays the game would have demonstrated it in an exhibition.
E) Why are we arguing, its a glitch and if I had a defective chess board I'd fill in one of the blocks with a crayon or something - since we can't do that to DOA5, lets ask team ninja to patch it and lets all ignore Jeff because Mila has the glitch and taking it away from him directly affects the way he deals with wake up kicks.
HiguraShiki
Active Member
Did you just seriously use Chess as an excuse to make your argument look valid.Imagine Jeff, if you bought a chess board.
Pretend there was a defect in the manufacturing of that particular line of chess boards and two of those orange blocks were parallel to each other.
Now imagine if you will that the manual that came with the game describes the entire game and mentions nothing about black players ability to take advantage of an extra orange block where a cream block should be.
So people, heres what I'm saying.
If all evidence points to it being a defect, it is - stop trying to over think these things.
A) The animation is not natural, Team Ninja doesn't make shitty animations.
B) Its not mentioned in any tutorial or guide.
C) A movement system that "Advanced" would have been outlined by someone from Team Ninja at some point. Because its such a great fucking idea! (Oh wait, it isn't.)
D) At some point someone from Team Ninja who plays the game would have demonstrated it in an exhibition.
E) Why are we arguing, its a glitch and if I had a defective chess board I'd fill in one of the blocks with a crayon or something - since we can't do that to DOA5, lets ask team ninja to patch it and lets all ignore Jeff because Mila has the glitch and taking it away from him directly affects the way he deals with wake up kicks.
A) TN doesn't make shitty animations? Look at Ayane's H+K.
B) It doesn't need to be mentioned in a tutorial or guide. Look at Rig's 6H+KK air grab. It doesn't state it in command training that it grabs an opponent in mid air. Does that mean Rig's air grab is broken? Also Brad Wong has an air grab that is not mentioned at all. Hell, it isn't even mentioned that in LHT stance he can go into handstand by inputting K8. Does that mean it is broken?
C) How do you know if it would have been outlined? Key word "Would Have" That is completely based on your opinion.
D) Again subjective to opinion
E) Why are YOU arguing. You are the one who started this. And also enough with the chess board argument. There is a difference between chess which is turn based and adding an extra square would make the board completely uneven and something like backdash canceling which is in almost every 3D fighting game. If you don't like it, deal with it. You probably wont even have to deal with it since it isn't as effective as you say. It is quite complicated to backdash cancel correctly in the first place and if you fuck up, you will still get hit by a wakeup kick.
d3v
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The problem here is that you're assuming that the game's ruleset is fully outlined in the manual when in reality it isn't. A games true ruleset is what is allowed by the code, nothing more, nothing less. If the code means that so-and-so character can backdash cancel faster than others then so be it.
Zeo
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Yep, while running on slippery surfaces or on water you have at least a 30% chance to trip into an unholdable sitdown stun for at least 30 frames.
Balance!
Julius Rage
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Big meaningless wall of text - it a glitch and anyone with eyes can see it is a glitch. How hard it is to pull off the glitch isnt the point, the point is it is a glitch and Team Ninja is going to patch it once they see it. How about this : Ask TN about it - its a glitch.
HiguraShiki
Active Member
More like answers to your poor reasons as to why it should be removed.
milechaser
Member
So I was in command training with Rig and while I had my back to the opponent I attempted to do a 540 kick (6H+K, usually only when performing turning stance) to see if it would work. It did. In fact, the kick ended up facing away from the opponent as well...and then Rig's head did a 360 before going back to normal back to opponent stance.
Idk if this counts as a glitch, but it was creepy as hell.
Idk if this counts as a glitch, but it was creepy as hell.
d3v
Well-Known Member
That's a dumb excuse for taking things out and robs the game of depth. This is tantamount to removing roll-cancels in CvS2; KBD and wavedashing in Tekken; tri-dash, fast-fly, unfly, re-fly, hop-cancel, etc. from Marvel; combos from SFII.
Not everyone has wavedashing in Marvel. In fact Marvel as a series is the poster boy for non-universal movement options.
Airdash - not everyone has it.
Tri-dash/jump - forget about it if your name isn't Magneto or Dr. Doom.
Parabolic down-dash - Only available to the Queen of Mahvell herself, Morrigan.
...and so on and so forth.
DontForkWitMe
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don't get the whining about the back dash. DOA is full of inconsistent crap that certain characters can do over others that make it unfair. kokoro and lisa having unbreakable chain throws while actual grapplers don't, eliots 236h+p not causing ceiling splat while genfu's does even though they launch the same height, bayman and mila having advantage after breaking out their chain throws while others don't etc...
Julius Rage
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We live in an age where things that arent susposed to be can be fixed without a full retail release.
If an FPS has a glitch that lets you switch guns too fast, its fixed.
If Madden a has a gltich that lets Ben Rothlisburger drop back alot faster because his animation package is different from other QB's half his size, its fixed.
If any type of game has something in it thats obviously a gltich its patched nowadays but for some reason fighting game communities don't subscribe to this theory simply because thats the way its always been for them - its not 2003 anymore, if theres a problem it needs to be fixed.
d3v
Well-Known Member
Because it's only a problem for scrubs like you.
Besides, even as far back as the late '90s, they've already been able to fix stuff and release updated versions of games. Even then however, the FGC would just reject revisions of games if they didn't like them (e.g. Alpha 2 over Alpha 2 Gold, 3rd Strike rev. 990512 over 3rd Strike rev. 990608, Capcom vs SNK 2 over CVS2 EO).
More importantly, throughout their history, fighting games have been one of the most emergent genres. Simply put, how they're played has been mostly up to the players and what they discover and not based on what the developers wanted. This is why the best dev teams are usually the ones who are able to acknowledge this.
Hi,
I'm not sure whether this has been addressed or not, but I have experienced a problem with sidestep input. The thing is, that even though I got it set as
or , then the game tends to switch between that and the / input at random. This is pretty annoying, because then the usual input that I use would result in a single punch instead of the sidestep. I've had that on numerous occasions, especially during longer on-line sessions. It just switches without any warning and is so annoying... Has anybody else had it as well?
I'm not sure whether this has been addressed or not, but I have experienced a problem with sidestep input. The thing is, that even though I got it set as
or , then the game tends to switch between that and the / input at random. This is pretty annoying, because then the usual input that I use would result in a single punch instead of the sidestep. I've had that on numerous occasions, especially during longer on-line sessions. It just switches without any warning and is so annoying... Has anybody else had it as well?