DOA5LR Helena in DOA5: Last Round
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That's Google Translator for you"under urging rack"
Hmmm.
ninjaguy446
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We're -5 after BT 66K2 now Throw nerfs suck but it's not too bad since her reset throws are where she shines. She got hit in the face with the nerf bat, but it could've been a lot worse.
Throw nerfs suck but it's not too bad since her reset throws are where she shines. She got hit in the face with the nerf bat, but it could've been a lot worse.
Just be glad that our lady didn't end up like Ms. Whom-shall-not-be-namedWe're -5 after BT 66K2 now
I don't understand the throw nerfs...
KwonJigglypuff
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I do.
I'm not found of it, but it fits the way TN wants us to play her.
I'm not found of it, but it fits the way TN wants us to play her.
Omegan Eckhart
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How is 66P from BKO going to be useful? Are we meant to dash at them whilst in BKO? And if it hits they fall on their ass, wonderful. Clearly I'm missing something here :/
lotr9690
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It might work as a mid-range punish from BKO. I will be using it most likely against Ayane's shenanigans
In all I don't think much of Helena's changes will effect the way I use her. I'm really happy with their 33P buff. It's a small sacrifice it doesn't stun anymore since it's now at advantage.
People are still going to get bopped by the Goddess Hand (BKO 4P+K)
ninjaguy446
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Um, buff?
KwonJigglypuff
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Personally, BKO_66P is going to be a good opportunity to mash the opponent on the wall and then relaunch with 66K+H. Will be easier than before.
I see someone's already coming up with shenanigans lol
KwonJigglypuff
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Who ? What ? What did I sayyy?
lotr9690
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Yep. I don't see that as a nerf. I don't care if it doesn't stun.
ninjaguy446
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But it's a nerf. 33P used to give advantage and a lift stun on NH but now it doesn't, is -8 on NH, and only stuns on CH. I'm trying to see where it is you're saying there is a buff.
AsheMann21
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It's like they want us to use 66P ish.
As long as her throw frames stay the same then I'm fine but I'll be missing the days where I can fish for a BT wall throw...
As long as her throw frames stay the same then I'm fine but I'll be missing the days where I can fish for a BT wall throw...
lotr9690
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My bad haha I meant strategically. That particular one doesn't stun but I don't think she really needs it. It was a good tool but it was turning into a crutch for many Helena users. I think having no stun on neutral will fix that by encouraging Helena users to use her myriad of tools in order to open opponents up. Additionally it will also encourage more variety of strategies... properly space with her, evade etc. in order to earn the stun on 33P. I don't think having it loosing the stun is a nerf at all. The changes to the move aren't significant enough to warrant a nerf. We all will just have to use it more carefully.
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Ah... Helena in Last Round. It tickles me lavender because I'm going to body this girl bad. It's truthfully about time you guys have to use something more carefully, because it's pretty blatant that she's the most busted character in the game. People could think of more nerfs and she would still be a completely legit character. I hate this match-up. And before you say adapt! ADAPT! How the fuck do you adapt to a character that humps the ground as hard as she does, and as many times?
With all her weirdness also comes oddities in moves, unnatural behavior and glitches. For that reason alone, I'm out.
With all her weirdness also comes oddities in moves, unnatural behavior and glitches. For that reason alone, I'm out.
ninjaguy446
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um, ok???
So you just came into Helena's forum to state that you're going to body her and that she was the most busted character? I don't see why you think these nerfs are going to allow you to "body" her. Her throws do less damage, yeah, but she's a vortex character, meaning that it'd be more fruitful to use her reset throws for the reset and not the damage. 33P still crushes everything. BKO duck wasn't even nerfed, so you still have to worry about that. I don't know how you can say she's the most busted character when Genfu exists.
In my experience as a Helena main since Vanilla, not once have I come across a glitch or oddity, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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