DOA5LR New character expectations (Spring 2016)

[SoftCabbage]

On some Facebook groups, a lot of people seem to be leaning towards an androgynous looking character since Hayashi said that this character is going in a direction that the team hasn't touched before.

I bet we will see reptiles and dinosaurs in DOA6 and its DLC.

We will see yeti and ghost in DOA7.

I hope Team Ninja know their direction.

 

[EMPEROR_COW]

DOAX3 coming with a new character
DOA5LR coming with a new character ...
A safe bet would be that they are one and the same ...
So, its gonna be a female.
lol

(pls. let it be Ms. Monday)

 

[werewolfgold]

No one said that DOAX3 was going to have a new character.

 

[WisperG]

And on top of that, they've already explicitly said the new LR character wouldn't be in DOAX3.

 

[Lysol]

Hello, I'm new to this site, nice to meet you all. I've been lurking around for a while on here and I felt like giving my 2 cents on this character.

I honesty feel like it's gonna be female. I mean you can kinda tell by their silhouette. She has a slender neck and it looks like she has a bob as well. For some reason I'm getting a strong "dandere" vibe from her......? Not sure why, could just be my weeb juices seeping out from the excitement.....

Dark blue hair, green sleepy eyes. Probabliy wears glasses? B-cup at most? Short as well. (Watch me be way off lol)

 

[Mayor-Of-Mustard]

Hello, I'm new to this site, nice to meet you all. I've been lurking around for a while on here and I felt like giving my 2 cents on this character.

I honesty feel like it's gonna be female. I mean you can kinda tell by their silhouette. She has a slender neck and it looks like she has a bob as well. For some reason I'm getting a strong "dandere" vibe from her......? Not sure why, could just be my weeb juices seeping out from the excitement.....

Dark blue hair, green sleepy eyes. Probabliy wears glasses? B-cup at most? Short as well. (Watch me be way off lol)

Naw cause I can imagine her in DOAX3

I think it will be an older woman, or a dude. Or even a transgender.

 

[Jadeinchains]

Hello, I'm new to this site, nice to meet you all. I've been lurking around for a while on here and I felt like giving my 2 cents on this character.

I honesty feel like it's gonna be female. I mean you can kinda tell by their silhouette. She has a slender neck and it looks like she has a bob as well. For some reason I'm getting a strong "dandere" vibe from her......? Not sure why, could just be my weeb juices seeping out from the excitement.....

Dark blue hair, green sleepy eyes. Probabliy wears glasses? B-cup at most? Short as well. (Watch me be way off lol)

Interesting how you think the character will be. I'm still thinking lightweight androgynous woman in traditional male clothes.

 

[WisperG]

I honesty feel like it's gonna be female. I mean you can kinda tell by their silhouette. She has a slender neck and it looks like she has a bob as well. For some reason I'm getting a strong "dandere" vibe from her......? Not sure why, could just be my weeb juices seeping out from the excitement.....

I'd hesitate to even call that a proper silhouette. I'd put money on it just being a generic placeholder that they slapped on a slide. They did say shortly after the announcement that they hadn't yet settled on a design.

 

[Kronin]

It's always been Arcades first. June is far too deep for a console release. I expect it to be slightly earlier than that but we cannot throw that out the window.

You could be right, maybe the character could really come slighty before than June (and so the three months gap) this time... especially if it's not a female xD

I don't want create an off topic like my usual, however seeing that you meant really discussing the Honoka/Raidou matter I will answer you =)

Spoiler

You cannot determine if it's any secret relations because the time gap before his death, during his death and his revival is not exactly in close ties due to the issue leading to over 60 reasons. That reason you placed up there is one of them. Now there are 59 other reasons with different outcomes and that one you placed just happens to be one created out of sheer thought due to either tag relations or family connection. (Which they don't have family connections unless it's "mentioned" otherwise. But since it's not mentioned at all, it's only normal speculation and not a strong one.) The red aura is merely the glove activity of it's usage. Now remove the glove, where is the aura. There is a habit here to where things visually automatically draws people into thinking it's automatically connected to someone. Apparently she has a mysterious power without the glove but yet people think the red aura automatically connects to Raidou. She has a copy cat glove equipment that copies techniques. Her mysterious power likely comes with the feedback that she can possibly keep them all as a bonus after stealing them. At this point, who knows. But who am I kidding? I don't even think it's a glove concept anymore granted that there are outfits to where she is not using it..so this concept is out of the window as there are more possibilities. Either she received a sample of Raidou's DNA to have the ability to use other moves? or maybe you were fortunate to be correct that she is related to Ayane or Raidou. (Which seems unlikely unless TN wants to say that they are related to provide even more confusion to the viewers for no reason.)

First of all, about the red aura, you already answered to it from yourself: you can see it even in the outfits where the glove doesn't appear. I don't think that this can be a so big mistake from TN, on the opposite this should be the evidence that the glove is not the cause of the power.

About the rest of things, what I said is indeed speculation but is based on more things that alone usually doesn't make a coincidence, and on the fact that DoA usually uses simple background stories for his characters (the most complex things are maybe the vicessitudes of Hayate and Kasumi between the first and second tournament).

1. TN gave to Honoka a connection with both Raidou and Ayane. Yes, even Marie Rose, but while the affinity between Honoka and Marie it's simple to see thinking that both of them are intended represent moe characters, the choice to join her with Raidou and Ayane that are of a complete different world - the shinobi one - appear truly strange.
2. Honoka's victory line with Raidou's tag assumes that in the past she has already seen Raidou somewhere, that sentence in fiction is always used for similar cases (but of course the reason for it could be for any kind of, not necessarily a father-daughter relationship). Raidou in Tag with Honoka has very strange behaviors, in the opening say to be kinda of scared, in the ending refuses to talk to Honoka's question. In both the circumstances it's the first time that the character give more the feeling to be goofy rather than scareful (just like the clichè of an scareful father that lose completely these characteristics in presence of the loved daughter for example, a meme already used in DoA for Bass with Tina). But this could be even a wrong impression of mine. Also, we have to remember that Raidou currently has no memories of his past, so if also this was the case, this should be only an hint of future story developments of DoA6 (just like the alliance between Kasumi and Phase in tag, just now not canon).
3. Then there is what it's always said all the times: Honoka has a power similar to Raidou for both skills (copy) and appearence (a mini red aura). Honoka has an appearence similar to Ayane for hair and eyes. Again, this can mean anything, but seems surely hint that the DNA of Raidou is in some way owned from her.

In my opinion the scenario that explain all of this adding less speculation possible to the infos that were already got - so not the only scenario that can explain it, but I repeat what explain it having to make imagine you the less development possible for connecting the dots - is that Raidou got a children, lived with some few time with her because she could keep some very vague memory of it. You say that something similar is against what we know of Raidou - an evil character that hardly we could imagine with a family - but if you think about it's already far from what we know of him to see this side of Raidou in DoA5LR, put in tag with a nice Japanese schoogirl and with a relationship that is surely not presented as twisted or evil.

I really think that Honoka in future will be used for showing a good side of Raidou not seen before, and that in the end the character could get a redemption from his status of evil character just through her (exactly as I think that to see Kasumi and Phase in Tag foreshadow the turning to the Shinobi side for the clone). But again, like I already repeated endless times, so far this remains only speculation =)

3) Again, there are no substantial mention at all. The speculation is only of normal base because the theory behind this suggest that Raidou once again falls prey to abusing another woman for his old selfish desires which he may no longer had around that time to even begin with. Throwing in Honoka within that particular timeline is completely off. Raidou was pure evil. His greed caused him to seek power after the events with Burai as well as after Ayame.

4) Honoka may have a grandmother with no connectivity at all for all we know. She is a highschool student that may have grasped a device for her powers or something kawaii to throw viewers off the hook. I don't see how it's...unknown...for a grandmother to take care of her grandchildren, It's only normal since it's her grandmother. Also Raidou's body was taken by Donovan after his collapse. The situation previous to this is that in past he was willing to give himself up for higher power for Donovan's experimentation but yet would only do it for his own purposes and likely may even betray Donovan in the end if such a outcome arisen. You see, "now" it was a good time for Donovan because he wiped his memories to prevent such things from happening. At this point, there are many reasons so who knows.

3) Indeed there is no mention at all of what I said, my point was just to say you that a such timeline is theoretically possible - getting into account only the objective facts, not the intentions of the charas - contrarily to what you seemed to state (if I didn't misunderstood your previous post). Also I repeat that I wasn't suggesting that Raidou abused another woman, this time the thing could have been consentient imo (it's actually the more likely scenario if Honoka is really the daughter of Raidou: it's unlikely that TN could show her without hard feelings toward him - as their calm tag team already do - if Raidou would have hurted her mother).

4) I think that you misunderstood me: my point wasn't that is strange for a grandmother to take care of her grandchildren, the point is that is strange that to do it are not her parents. I believe that TN used that line for Honoka's background not because the grandmother will be revealed to be an important character in future (we could also not see her at all), on the opposite because their point was to make question to the people what is the reason because Honoka didn't live with her parents. There are of course many possible explanations for it (not only that Raidou is her fater, for example both of them may have been died for any reason), but the point is anyway that TN setted purposefully a mistery behind Honoka's paste, whatever can be the fate of their parents.

Anyway if you want continue the discussion - just for the sake of it, not for a serious reason =) - I believe that it will be better to continue it through PM (even if I will be able to answer you just very later tomorrow).

 

[Argentus]

Interesting how you think the character will be. I'm still thinking lightweight androgynous woman in traditional male clothes.

But like I said before that's already kinda been done in doa

 

[Jadeinchains]

But like I said before that's already kinda been done in doa

By who? Eliot? Everyone I show doa to thinks Eliot is a young woman.

 

[Kronin]

But like I said before that's already kinda been done in doa

For me this was true for the old graphic of DoA, just now the face of Eliot is not more so candy to think that we are looking to a female character (or at least this is valid for me). Even if making explicit his interest toward the female gender I know that the game still jokes on his virility giving him customization for hair and glasses as the females, or making it goofy in the relationship with the other sex during the story. But if I look to Eliot now I can always think clearly to a young boy, differently from Leonore in Tekken where actually the thing seems to go in both the ways (again just my impression).

 

[Argentus]

By who? Eliot? Everyone I show doa to thinks Eliot is a young woman.

Not just Eliot, but also, while not quite the same, Mila in her c2 and Christie in her old butler tux.

Boyish looking girl/girlish looking boy has already been done enough that I don't think a simply androgynous character fits the "never gone in this direction before" criteria.

 

[Jadeinchains]

Not just Eliot, but also, while not quite the same, Mila in her c2 and Christie in her old butler tux.

Boyish looking girl/girlish looking boy has already been done enough that I don't think a simply androgynous character fits the "never gone in this direction before" criteria.

Yeah that makes sense but now with that option gone you are getting me worried that they really are going to introduce a cat girl or something into doa.

 

[Argentus]

Yeah that makes sense but now with that option gone you are getting me worried that they really are going to introduce a cat girl or something into doa.

Based on past dlc characters I'm guessing cat/fox girl or robot girl, yeah.

 

[Lysol]

Interesting how you think the character will be. I'm still thinking lightweight androgynous woman in traditional male clothes.

(I'm on mobile so I'm not sure if I can upload a gif but I'll try lol, glad to see a fellow drag racer)

I think that'd be pretty cool! Although I feel like the only male clothing she'll ever wear will be her default. I mean knowing team ninja the majority of her clothes and DLC will probably have skirts, look what happened to Mila. Not so much a tomboy anymore =_=

P.S. If this reply doesn't come out right I'm sorry lol mobile kinda makes things difficult. OTL

 

[MeadowSpirit]

A trans character would be really cool but I doubt that it would be any of those :/ the Japanese fan base (to me at least) has more power over us and moe-blobs sell really well over there.

WTF? I'm sorry, but a "trans" character is the stupidest idea I've heard in awhile.

 

[Project Bokuho]

Awwww! I love how everyone is bonding so quickly in this thread, because of the mysterious new character haha

 

[MeadowSpirit]

How so? I mean I guess it does seem kinda silly but idk. Good for all that representation and sjw crap. Although I'd prefer a trap, those are always cute.

I don't give a shit about SJW's or any of the other self-righteous, disapproving asshats on social media. TN's goal should be to please us fans while creating a character they find cool, not making some bullshit statement of solidarity with an identity group.

 

[Argentus]

Again, I don't think an ambiguous gender character fits the "never done this before" criteria that Hayashi laid out.

Eliot in general, and to an extent Christie in her tux and Mila in her c2 kinda shoot the idea of the new character being a trap/androgynous down, in my book.