Nioh General Discussion

Brute

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The endgame scaling is out of control, in my opinion. You want to get the best stuff, but then you're not really playing the game anymore since battles are won by your stats rather than your gameplay skill. I can imagine that the eventual DLC in April will be very disappointing to a lot of players who jump into it with their leveled up characters and one-shot every enemy from start to finish (not to mention what a mess the PvP is going to be!).

It's otherwise such a well-structured game. Very disappointing to see that Team Ninja got so lazy in defining its limits for the endgame. Subtracts from the longevity rather than adding to it. My first major complaint with Nioh.
 

Xhominid The Demon Within

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The endgame scaling is out of control, in my opinion. You want to get the best stuff, but then you're not really playing the game anymore since battles are won by your stats rather than your gameplay skill. I can imagine that the eventual DLC in April will be very disappointing to a lot of players who jump into it with their leveled up characters and one-shot every enemy from start to finish (not to mention what a mess the PvP is going to be!).

It's otherwise such a well-structured game. Very disappointing to see that Team Ninja got so lazy in defining its limits for the endgame. Subtracts from the longevity rather than adding to it. My first major complaint with Nioh.

Then all it really needs is a NG+ mode with a ratcheting difficulty like Bloodborne for everytime you beat it.
 

Sotherius

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Just put a level/equipment cap, and create a new difficulty level suited for that, it would be the best way to work..
 

NinjaRayMan

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If they made a mode that stripped away all the rpg, stat/leveling bullshit I'd gladly pay for it.
I've spent way too much time in the menus for my liking. It doesn't add anything meaningful to the game in my opinion.
 

Fiend Busa

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If they made a mode that stripped away all the rpg, stat/leveling bullshit I'd gladly pay for it.
I've spent way too much time in the menus for my liking. It doesn't add anything meaningful to the game in my opinion.

I don't understand...why don't you just not use the shrine to level up... problem solved lol

Game is probably not for you.
 

NinjaRayMan

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Nah, I love the game. Just find the rpg elements tiresome and unnecessary after awhile. Only leveling up to use spirits or weapon attributes at this point. Would be nice to have a stripped down chapter challenge/mission mode like they do in NG , that's all
 

Brute

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So hows the game guys? I dont have any money so waiting on it.
Excellent. It could be even more excellent if it finished shedding it's archaic remnants of Dark Souls, which at this point feel like useless, dead skin hanging off a fresh new creature. Despite this, it's still one of the best games in years, and the best action title of this console generation. Great machanics, customization, atmosphere, loads of content and more.
 

just_me

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So hows the game guys? I dont have any money so waiting on it.

I think it's Team Ninja's best game since the XBox era (and at least the meta scores agree with me)

If you class Nioh as an Action RPG, it has the best combat in the genre without any question (though I never get the infatuation with Blooborne… making everything a tad faster and removing the option to block made things worse and not better imo, since it just shows how clunky the combat in Souls games actually is… those super huge buffer windows man)

Great attention to detail in character, armor and enemy design (including animations) and other stuff like Saoirse (William's original guardian spirit) speaking apparently fairly authentic Irish/Gaelige. Overall there is just a lot of stuff to do in the game and the vast majority is executed fairly well.

Of course there are things that could have been better:
The most common criticism(and most valid imo) is enemy variety… you don't see a lot of brand new stuff past the halfway mark and there are only around 30 enemy types to begin with (and roughly the same number of bosses)

Level design is another one, which I don't really understand though. The routing(?) from start to finish within a Mission is usually done really well and you have to give them some bonus points for the fact that you can easily spend 1-2h per mission exploring everything, but if you want to farm you can get to the boss within 2-3 minutes, if you know what you are doing. I thought the atmosphere in most missions was fine as well, though I could concede that many locations look a bit too… sterile. Like someone cleaned the whole place and then left.

And most of the Diablo style features are not everyone's cup of tea either, like massive amounts of loot (and thus inventory management), pretty rare drops and RNG based crafting/rerolling. The huge amount of customizable stats also leads to a myriad of ways to trivialize/break the game, though most of them involve a decent amount of min-maxing and are thus end/post-game stuff, or are not that easy to pull off.

And of course there are a lot of complaints that the game is either too much like Souls, or not enough like Souls.

EDIT: grammar…
 
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KasumiLover

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New DLC incoming!
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Sotherius

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Ok, i'm in the credits, and i have a question.

Why in the beach scene okatsu says something about william being selfish like any other samurai, i thought her opinion would be changed at this point.
 

Brute

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Why in the beach scene okatsu says something about william being selfish like any other samurai, i thought her opinion would be changed at this point.
Because he leaves japan to pursue his own quest, rather than staying in Japan with her. She doesn't realize that Tokugawa ordered a hit on him. Also, go finish the epilogue level. Now.
 

Sotherius

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Because he leaves japan to pursue his own quest, rather than staying in Japan with her. She doesn't realize that Tokugawa ordered a hit on him. Also, go finish the epilogue level. Now.

I want to, but i also want to be able to beat this Couple battle mission
 
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