The DOA5U "Casual" thread. ^__^

[UpSideDownGRUNT]

I don't care about the clone plot but, please give me Ein back as a clone ;~; I REALLY want to see a canon story mode where Ein and Hayate go head to head. (pssst... Ein wins ofcourse )

 

[Chapstick]

The misteryous girl in the desert wearing the black cloak is a character never appeared before and still shrouded in the mistery. Before the events of DoA5, Bayman and his squad encountered this girl during a mission, and like consequence Bayman reported his scar (and supposedly the rest of soldiers were killed). The scene in the end of the story where the girl is seen to disappear, it's just the conclusion of the scene mentiond over.

At the moment we don't know anything about the girl, if not that she has to be surely another creation of Donovan (Bayman immediately recognized it, and it was just this to push him to investigate again on this clone in the hope to find Donovan). However, considering the importance that very likely she will get in the next game, I don't think that she will end to be a simple clone of Kasumi but maybe an effective next phase of Donovan's project, very likely with human feelings on the opposite of Alpha 152 (like her tears in the end seem to indicate). More, her physical traits appear to be more a fusion between Kasumi and Ayane, so also the supposition that she is a clone of the red kunoichi could be a mistake.

About Kasumi Alpha, intended like the DoA2 clone of Kasumi, according to the new canon setted for the series with DoA Dimensions, she was transformed in Alpha 152, so finding the death in DoA5 by the hands of the fake Kasumi. So now Kasumi Alpha and Alpha 152 are technically the same character.

For summarizing, the main clones of Kasumi in the series are:

• Kasumi Alpha becoming Alpha 152 [killed by the "Fake Kasumi"]
  
• The "Fake Kasumi" that you control for the majority of the DoA5 story [killed by Hayate and Ayane]
  
• The girl in the cloak (that could or couldn't be a Kasumi clone).

The Alphas and clones are confusing as hell. D: It's hard to keep track of this stuff. This scene must be after the credits or something, gonna go look for it

 

[Kronin]

I don't care about the clone plot but, please give me Ein back as a clone ;~; I REALLY want to see a canon story mode where Ein and Hayate go head to head. (pssst... Ein wins ofcourse )

It's pretty possible that in DoA6 could appear also a clone of Hayate, seeing like Rig in the end seemed interested to him starting again the project Epsilon (however I can't say why this clone should use the Karate XD).

The Alphas and clones are confusing as hell. D: It's hard to keep track of this stuff. This scene must be after the credits or something, gonna go look for it

It's not really hard to follow, but some passages are not well explained (like for example Kasumi Alpha becoming Alpha 152) and some are in the mistery (for Lisa the last phase of the project should be the clone that is released in the end against the ninja: so we should think that the cloaked girl is of the same "species", or rather will be revealed to be an evolution of the project that neither Lisa know? - very likely).

 

[UpSideDownGRUNT]

It's pretty possible that in DoA6 could appear also a clone of Hayate, seeing like Rig in the end seemed interested to him starting again the project Epsilon (however I can't say why this clone should use the Karate XD).

I'd like to see the clone be Ein for several reasons:
1. I wanna see Hayate have a bout the the very untalative and aggressive Ein.
2. it would be cool tp see everyone think he's lost his memories (minus the ninja ofcourse as they'll know straight away)
3. Hitomi will be able to meet the man she loved again

There's also a few possible hints at Ein being a clone too.

1. his Bio on the DOA5U page seems to suggest this
2. his unique tag with Lisa/La Mariposa and Hayate
3. not a hint but it's very possible that Epsilon fails again but successfully cloned the part of Hayate that was lost prior to DOA2 (hence the clone knowing karate) and sets out to find Hitomi and the Dojo (now I'm just grasping at straws xD)

 

[Deleted member 473]

Im having a feeling in DOA6 the Kasumi that scarred Bayman will end up confusing the other ninjas by literally copying Kasumi's personality. (would be a good plot device) Also she can do more than just master Kasumi's style (also cloning the rest of the fighters fighting styles according to Rig). This clone will eventually tie up the real Kasumi and hold her hostage, and the others eventually will have to save her....

 

[SaihateDYNAMO]

I want....doa....to have a Digimon stage.

Digimon World on the psp got Lili from Tekken as a cameo, and they already had a Metroid cameo plus Halo, and now VF.

next either better be a digimon Stage (or...character?), or the Ninja Turtles (PLUS SLASH!) as the next guest fighters.

and not crappy blocky cgi nickelodeon turtles, either. I'm talking hyper realistic 91 movie turtles.

but anyways, i've been on a Digimon binge lately, and thinking of how awesome the environment hazards would be in a digimon stage in doa.

You are the same guy who said that Mary Rose and Tengu are out of place! Which feels more out of place, a maid and a japanese folklore demon, or anthropomorphic cartoon mutant turtles?

And hell to the no with Digimon either. I don't wanna see Kasumi get beat down by Agumon or something. Not to be rude or anything some of your ideas are whack

 

[Deleted member 473]

Some ideas are dumb but I'd put a Slash like character in DOA. He should beat you with his guitar in the combo, and his taunts would be music that rips your ears. And get this......Tina falls in love with him, after rejecting Zack. INGENIOUS!

 

[Chapstick]

Im having a feeling in DOA6 the Kasumi that scarred Bayman will end up confusing the other ninjas by literally copying Kasumi's personality. (would be a good plot device) Also she can do more than just master Kasumi's style (also cloning the rest of the fighters fighting styles according to Rig). This clone will eventually tie up the real Kasumi and hold her hostage, and the others eventually will have to save her....

They pretty much knew it wasn't her in 5 so I don't think they would get fooled again. That 'can you sense it' 'something seems off about her' Ayane/Hayate scene.

Also the Kasumi we saw at the end of 5 was more strong and determined than ever so I highly doubt she will do the 'damsel in distress' bit again like when she was trapped in the lab. The next game I can see Donovan being the final boss of story mode (becoming playable after of course) and Kasumi killing him once and for all. Then a new evil power rising up to continue the story into the next game yada yada yada

 

[Kronin]

They pretty much knew it wasn't her in 5 so I don't think they would get fooled again. That 'can you sense it' 'something seems off about her' Ayane/Hayate scene.

Also the Kasumi we saw at the end of 5 was more strong and determined than ever so I highly doubt she will do the 'damsel in distress' bit again like when she was trapped in the lab. The next game I can see Donovan being the final boss of story mode (becoming playable after of course) and Kasumi killing him once and for all. Then a new evil power rising up to continue the story into the next game yada yada yada

Not sure if Donovan will end to be playable and the final boss in the next game, but surely the times of Kasumi being trapped and in danger seem to be ended with her new DoA5 version

 

[Argentus]

You are the same guy who said that Mary Rose and Tengu are out of place! Which feels more out of place, a maid and a japanese folklore demon, or anthropomorphic cartoon mutant turtles?

And hell to the no with Digimon either. I don't wanna see Kasumi get beat down by Agumon or something. Not to be rude or anything some of your ideas are whack

...if we can have a giant budda statue fistslam someone, and fighters get shot out of clown mouths, and attacked by raptors and lions, we can have them get smacked by leviamon.

And for the record, the TMNT were also mistaken for japanese folklore demons.

But yeah, I wouldn't mind a digimon stage, especially since doa's theme since 5 seems to be "why the hell not" with all disregard to whether it fits doa.

....fuggenrap.

Some ideas are dumb but I'd put a Slash like character in DOA. He should beat you with his guitar in the combo, and his taunts would be music that rips your ears. And get this......Tina falls in love with him, after rejecting Zack. INGENIOUS!

not.....not that slash.

 

[Aerospark]

They pretty much knew it wasn't her in 5 so I don't think they would get fooled again. That 'can you sense it' 'something seems off about her' Ayane/Hayate scene.

Also the Kasumi we saw at the end of 5 was more strong and determined than ever so I highly doubt she will do the 'damsel in distress' bit again like when she was trapped in the lab. The next game I can see Donovan being the final boss of story mode (becoming playable after of course) and Kasumi killing him once and for all. Then a new evil power rising up to continue the story into the next game yada yada yada

If they decide to make Donovan a final boss & kill him off at the end of DOA6 they better have it where Helena pushes Kasumi's basic ass to the floor and literally beats the shit out of Donovan. But you know, Team Ninja wont have that since they just love to make Kasumi the center of attention even when sometimes she's completely irrelevant and they bring her up anyway.

 

[Russian-chiropractic19]

DOATECs plans completely revolve around her how is she not relevant?

 

[Project Bokuho]

DOATECs plans completely revolve around her how is she not relevant?

I guess Goldilocks (Kasumi) has an anti fanclub, not that i'm surprised lol

 

[Jyakotu]

I give Temco props for trying to craft some kind of story, but let's be real here, the story makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Lol

 

[Russian-chiropractic19]

Hmmm no. Even fanfiction writers can do better than that , some of the visuals were pretty neat but the story and what little structure it had was shit.

 

[Jyakotu]

Hmmm no. Even fanfiction writers can do better than that , some of the visuals were pretty neat but the story and what little structure it had was shit.

This is why I don't usually pay attention to stories in fighting games. Some of them do it well, but others should focus more on the fighting. DOA5U is one of those fighting games that should focus on the fighting, because the story itself is not that great. Not to mention, not every character got a chapter in Story Mode.

 

[Aerospark]

This is why I don't usually pay attention to stories in fighting games. Some of them do it well, but others should focus more on the fighting. DOA5U is one of those fighting games that should focus on the fighting, because the story itself is not that great. Not to mention, not every character got a chapter in Story Mode.

In my opinion, Dead or Alive had a solid story up until DOA5. I, personally think the actual story should've ended with Dead or Alive 4 because Dead or Alive 4 just felt like such a climax to the series & then Dead or Alive 5 came along... and.. ugh. They could've thought of something completely new instead of introducing M.I.S.T.

 

[Brute]

In my opinion, Dead or Alive had a solid story up until DOA5.

 

[Keved]

Yeah i agree with what most of you guys are saying here regarding the story. I understand that it always helps to develop characters by giving them a reason as to why they want to kick each other's heads in but usually it's just to glue & duct tape on a few cinematics to buff up the story mode. No complaints there, i quite enjoyed the goofiness of it all in DOA5 but like alot of fighting games, noone buys them or plays them entirely just for the purpose of it's storytelling. I had a similar discussion about fighting game stories with someone from another forum.

He said to me, so why do you play DOA5?

"I play it because it's incredibly fun to play, i enjoy the characters, their extensive movelists & the stages they're thrown into. The action is fast & frantic which makes most battles both a blast & a spectacle online & offline" What about you, why do you play the game?

"The story mode mainly. TN always do a good job implementing a deep plot for the characters"

I didn't ridicule him as that's his opinion & he is entitled to it, but trying to grasp what he was saying in my head made me go all

 

[Aerospark]

Okay I think 'solid' was too much. Maybe 'enjoyable' is a better term..