The lack-of-stagger-escape glitch poll
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P1naatt1ke1tt0
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I voted no, BUT only because the glitch doesn't implement the mechanic right. I would love for sit-downs to be inescepable. I just would want it to be implemented properly, so that all sit-down stuns would be so much deeper that SEing wouldn't affect them, like Jann's H+K.
So please TN, just add 10 frames to 23 frame sitdowns and so forth.
So please TN, just add 10 frames to 23 frame sitdowns and so forth.
I really don't care if stagger escape is kept in or not. If it's kept in, it just means Ayane's 3H+K is godlike with BT4K.
Rikuto
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It would just result in the same situation we have now... you should have voted yes
Confirming that I would love for you to have this and to abuse it against me to whatever extent you fancy.
dawnbringer
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I could only reduce duration of sit-down stuns by 1 frame at best during my tests (24 -> 23, 31 -> 30). Very cool. Will test other unholdable stuns (like back stagger) later.
Normal holdable stuns that leave opponent standing are reduced as usual (15 -> 10, 34 -> 25, 25 -> 17).
Another interesting thing about that. It seems that stagger escaping now can be "buffered", i.e. some of stagger escaping effect carries to the next stun, magically. For example, when I hit with a move that inflict -34 stun and reduced it to -25, if this very move is repeated again it will only stun for -28, without any stagger escaping.
DontForkWitMe
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i don't know if i'll even bother with this game again if they fix this shit. can't express how much of an improvement it is. i went from barely touching the game to playing it non-stop since the glitch was discovered,
eliot is actually much more dangerous now. parry into guaranteed 3k which leads to his P sitdown follow up (which is only counterable if the opponent is quick enough to react and hold a midpunch during the parry recovery animation...which not a single person was able to out of the dozens of people i used it on)into p+k double sitdown, into CB, into 8k launch, into instant 3px2 refloat into 3ppp46p all 100% guaranteed after the first sitdown connects.
theres no turning back for me, my interest in this game rides on whether they keep it like this or not
eliot is actually much more dangerous now. parry into guaranteed 3k which leads to his P sitdown follow up (which is only counterable if the opponent is quick enough to react and hold a midpunch during the parry recovery animation...which not a single person was able to out of the dozens of people i used it on)into p+k double sitdown, into CB, into 8k launch, into instant 3px2 refloat into 3ppp46p all 100% guaranteed after the first sitdown connects.
theres no turning back for me, my interest in this game rides on whether they keep it like this or not
I just realized something, Ayane's BT6K provides a sitdown stun while in critical stun. Holy shit, that move is actually good now. o_o
Rikuto
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Prepare to get addicted.
People are always so quick to jump up and say stuff like this. How is this broken?
Skilletor
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And normal stuns don't. How's it broken? You're guessing either way.
Rikuto
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Most sit downs don't guarantee much of anything until this glitch comes into play. The good ones are kept by only a handful of characters. This glitch gives a lot more opportunity to several other characters.
And honestly, If you get hit by a 19-25 frame move I'm pretty sure you deserve to take a guaranteed beatdown from it. I mean that's a seriously slow move.
rximmortal
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From my tests the standart sit down stun is unholdable for 17 frames. So It was best the way it was. It is broken if you can hit with 19FR Crit Burst after it , like it is now.
