The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread
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synce
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Pai is Helena done right. I've been using her just a couple days and people are already raging. High tier at least
+fast and safe
+high damage counter and grab setups
-long range game is weak
-can't juggle heavies well
And an extra minus for online where her best juggles will often fail in lag.
+fast and safe
+high damage counter and grab setups
-long range game is weak
-can't juggle heavies well
And an extra minus for online where her best juggles will often fail in lag.
DR2K
Well-Known Member
Helena is Bass done right in this game.
P1naatt1ke1tt0
Active Member
Good point, I believe the incoming patch is the reason this thread has been so quiet recently.
KwonJigglypuff
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So... what do you guys think of Helena now ? Satisfied ?
Last night I had that dream where they had fixed her ponytail, lol, weird.
Last night I had that dream where they had fixed her ponytail, lol, weird.
Fact: No matter what happens to this game, Ayane will continue to be high tier or above. Those changes just made my day and a move that was terribly good in DOA2U will be terribly good now in this game.
With that aside, her favorable match-ups will either remain the same, or slightly better. Her fairer match-ups will more than likely remain the same as well. An already great character getting buffed "again" just means she's still ahead in her match-ups.
With that aside, her favorable match-ups will either remain the same, or slightly better. Her fairer match-ups will more than likely remain the same as well. An already great character getting buffed "again" just means she's still ahead in her match-ups.
ScattereDreams
Well-Known Member
Indeed lol. NH 4F+K Limbo stun was some scary shit, and will be some scary shit again.
I am mostly thrilled about Lisa. She has hella guaranteed opprounities now which does include a limbo stun and a i11 jab (was previously i12) that's +1 on NH and I think on guard? It's says "changed advantage on normal hit or guard from -2 to +1F" . She can cancel her sidestep into a backturn transition, which should give her more variety for whiff punishing.
I won't call her a top tier character, but she's definitely been pushed up the food chain.
Fact: Kasumi wasn't a bad character to begin with. But with the buffs than she's gotten, shit just got interesting! Here's another: Hayate & Hitomi BOTH are better! Things just got interesting, & shit just got real. Plus Ayane got a buff & she was already good! Plus, Busa got better.
Batcommander
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Lisa wasn't bad either, and she got buffed, so this is an exciting time!
Just to be clear, the Ninjas are the main peak of DOA. Just like the Shotos are in Street Fighter, and the Kazama folk are in Tekken. Either some of them or all of them are going to be good. With at least one or two or them being better than the latter.
DontForkWitMe
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eliot rockbottom tier confirmed he got no viable buffs and they nerfed an already shitty unsafe string to be more unsafe, the only notable highlights is he gets a new sitdown stun with which gives him single strike sitdown on counter hit standing opponents which is nice accept that he gets jack shit from sitdown stuns
which gives him single strike sitdown on counter hit standing opponents which is nice accept that he gets jack shit from sitdown stuns
Fact.... But anyways I'm a enforce Mr.Wah's rules & keep this as a match up thread. We'll know next week or talk about what you know now.....
So with that said, talk about match ups. Facts are key. Not your personal opinion or how you feel is.
Omegan Eckhart
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She's exactly the same no real buff's, no guaranteed set ups. She's pure DOA4, nothing but stun and guess constantly.So... what do you guys think of Helena now ? Satisfied ?
Last night I had that dream where they had fixed her ponytail, lol, weird.
DR2K
Well-Known Member
Eh, still the best character in this game if she has her fruit loops.
