You all need to make sure you understand what is going on before asking Team Ninja for nerfs/buffs.

The "casual gamer" wants enough information to be able to play the game well enough. They don't normally care about further game mechanics. Normally in-game tutorials give you this, but even then they still do not show or teach you everything else. When people really decide that they want to learn more about the game they play, that is when they decide to get on the internet and search for things.
Be it Youtube, some online strategy guide/FAQ (or a strategy guide book), or finding actual forums for legit information. This sort of thing doesn't just apply to DOA, it applies to every other fighter as well. Other games have their beginner (and sometimes more advanced tutorials) that'll explain moves or other aspects of the game in detail. But you are still not handed "everything" on a silver platter.

That's my point entirely. If you're trying to make a game accessible to casuals, teach them core mechanics. I say SEing is a core mechanic. Don't you?
 

Madian

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keep saying that...a guy you may know, perfect legend, would love to talk about that.

I play MK9 and I can tell you the number of people who show up to casuals and local tournaments has dwindled. It's typically been the same core group of people supporting the majors. Do you play MK9?
 

Julius Rage

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I'm saying, why are you telling other people not to ask for things on their characters when you yourself want Zack to get patched?

Where have you seen me asking Team Ninja for Zack buffs? On twitter or anywhere, have you seen me petitioning Team Ninja to make my character better? No, you haven't.

I typed in the DOA5 lobby text box that "I can't wait until Zack gets patched" at the same time I was having a conversation with Accurate about how absurd it is for everyone to be asking for shit to help them win (also talked about how much of a homosexual he is and how voting for Obama puts him one step closer to tying the knot with
Perfect Legend.)

Do I wish Zack was better - you're damn right but I also wish my dick was bigger and I'd think it just as unseemly to pray to god every night that I wake up with a babys arm attached to my pelvis when I could be asking dude for more important things. . .like SSable OH's, longer recorvery on holds and world peace.
 

Prince Adon

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It's funny how most of the buffs people are asking for isn't even for characters who really need it. The ignorance of these people.
 

Awesmic

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The main problem is no one posts info about their character(s). Not even small stuff for whatever reason lol.
Some people underestimate how intimidating they are when they try to correct people.

If only certain people were less abrasive and more tactful, I think we'd have more people posting even small info. Hell, I would actually post strats rather than watch along the sidelines and watch people misunderstand each other.
 

iHajinShinobi

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The main problem is no one posts info about their character(s). Not even small stuff for whatever reason lol.

I haven't been into every other character sub-forum, yet. So I can't comment there. But Xdest and myself and a few others have been sharing info in the Ayane forums for awhile now. I understand what you mean though, I wish there were more information around in the Sarah forums.
 

CrimsonCJ

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Some people underestimate how intimidating they are when they try to correct people.

If only certain people were less abrasive and more tactful, I think we'd have more people posting even small info. Hell, I would actually post strats rather than watch along the sidelines and watch people misunderstand each other.
Pretty much. It's weird to have people harp on participation and then immediately go aggressively after anyone who posts something incorrect (often understandably so) or with a legitimate difference of opinion.

Not every suggestion is going to be perfect; not every tweet exactly helpful. But I'm not sure that going nuclear on all of them actually helps the cause, at the end of the day.
 

Rikuto

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Funny, i don't think I've gotten any complaints whatsoever in the Bayman forums. Looking pretty healthy from where I'm sitting.

Care to show an example of myself going nuclear on someone asking for help?
 

Batcommander

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Whoops, didn't know that was edited to be a less pointed post. . .

In his defense, i will say i think Rikuto has been fairly objective when handing out knowledge. I know people can get heated as hell sometimes, but I still don't think this place is as volatile as the SRK forums, imo.
 

Chaos

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That and many more lol. People just aren't realizing that Free is no longer a get out of jail free card as it was in DOA4. I really, REALLY love the fact that you cannot hold when knocked against a wall either.
I always though it was stupid that you can counter hold when you bounce off a wall & now its gone for good...thank goodness! :)
because that shit was fucking retarded lol.
 

CrimsonCJ

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If people are making uneducated recommendations and stupid suggestions, shouldn't TN know the mechanics of their own game well enough not to implement them?
One would hope. No one here really needs to be the arbiter of that.
 

DR2K

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If people are making uneducated recommendations and stupid suggestions, shouldn't TN know the mechanics of their own game well enough not to implement them?

Half the cast is playing the old game, and the other half is playing the new one.
 

Brute

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I wish Kasmui's :3::P::+::K:, :F:+::K: & Ryu's Ongyoin teleport grab was a OH. :(
I'm actually going to say I'm opposed to these. The main defenses against these maneuvers is by intercepting them if you anticipate they're coming. While Ryu's Ongyoin 8T doesn't track and can be side-stepped or ducked (not sure if the Kasumi Hopshinpo(?) can be easily side-stepped but I imagine it can), I like to think there's a good chance for punishment involved if you want to risk going that route (particularly for Ryu's). Ryu's tele-grab is already plenty potent enough when mixed with his 9P (especially when as as a wake-up kick punish).

I still think Ryu should have an OH aside from the handstand throw, I just don't think it should be his ong-tele
 
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Where have you seen me asking Team Ninja for Zack buffs? On twitter or anywhere, have you seen me petitioning Team Ninja to make my character better? No, you haven't.

I typed in the DOA5 lobby text box that "I can't wait until Zack gets patched" at the same time I was having a conversation with Accurate about how absurd it is for everyone to be asking for shit to help them win (also talked about how much of a homosexual he is and how voting for Obama puts him one step closer to tying the knot with
Perfect Legend.)

Do I wish Zack was better - you're damn right but I also wish my dick was bigger and I'd think it just as unseemly to pray to god every night that I wake up with a babys arm attached to my pelvis when I could be asking dude for more important things. . .like SSable OH's, longer recorvery on holds and world peace.
Idk why but this made me crack the fuck up! LMMFAO XD
 
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