Your Rating for DOA6

[human013]

lol at the constant Itagaki praising. Do people even look at his DOA games before they praise him?

@Napoleon

It's fine to have differing opinions and to not agree with other people. We just need to be civil and discuss the points. If you made your case and people don't agree then that's all you can do. Nothing wrong with that. And, just like in any community, certain opinions or thoughts will be prevalent even if you don't agree with it. You just have to accept that it is there. Trust me, I've been there. I'm relatively new to the series so my views on DOA constantly clash with people here to the point where people block me but that is completely fine. I like DOA enough to participate and express my thoughts even if they don't fit the into this place's views. That is the point in having discussions.

 

[Napoleon]

Itagaki DOA games are god tier.

The games were so ahead of their time.

I remember back when DOA2 and DOA3, nobody didn't care about Tekken anymore. Visualy these games slaped hard everything.

DOA2U was the first fighting game online on console.

DOA3 in 2001 was so beautiful that you tought it was impossible to have 3D graphics like that for future video games but only in a fighting game.

DOA4 as a Xbox 360 launch title is still a more beautiful (art style) and better game overall than DOA5 and DOA6.

Just to be short.

So yeah everybody know the Itagaki DOAs deserve all the praise forever. It's cleary on legendary level to the fighting game genre.

 

[DyByHands]

Obviously people on a DOA forum like DOA. But DOA5 and its versions are literally the best for gameplay and 6 is probably the worst, that or 4. I mean, come on lol.
Now music/graphics/etc can be argued.

 

[human013]

Itagaki DOA games are god tier.

The games were so ahead of their time.

I remember back when DOA2 and DOA3, nobody didn't care about Tekken anymore. Visualy these games slaped hard everything.

DOA2U was the first fighting game online on console.

DOA3 in 2001 was so beautiful that you tought it was impossible to have 3D graphics like that for future video games but only in a fighting game.

DOA4 as a Xbox 360 launch title is still a more beautiful (art style) and better game overall than DOA5 and DOA6.

Just to be short.

So yeah everybody know the Itagaki DOAs deserve all the praise forever. It's cleary on legendary level to the fighting game genre.

I never played the older games and also never heard of DOA before 5 so I have no personal experience to rely on. But, just by looking back at the games he made, I do not agree with anyone who claims he was supposedly this godlike figure for DOA. If that was the case then DOA would have been more popular back then and not be treated like like a joke at every level.


Yeah, people who like DOA will take part in a DOA forum but I was referring to this place specifically. Some people like DOA but don't agree with what this place believes, or some other aspect, so they do not join and participate.

 

[oMASTER LEGENDo]

Itagaki had a "god complex" should of seen him when people criticized him on Devils Third. Yes he did create Doa but also that man was full of it lmao.

 

[Napoleon]

I never played the older games and also never heard of DOA before 5 so I have no personal experience to rely on. But, just by looking back at the games he made, I do not agree with anyone who claims he was supposedly this godlike figure for DOA. If that was the case then DOA would have been more popular back then and not be treated like like a joke at every level.


Yeah, people who like DOA will take part in a DOA forum but I was referring to this place specifically. Some people like DOA but don't agree with what this place believes, or some other aspect, so they do not join and participate.

DOA was more serious and more popular (and respected as a fighting game) back in the days just like a lot of (big names) fighting games in the past.

I still remember about Dead or Alive 2 with Virtua Fighter 3 and also KOF98 being at the arcade in my city...

In fact, people really started to joke at DOA after Itagaki left and when the fighting game became a porn fest with DOA5 (without talking of all the stupid DLCs, and the awful story mode).

 

[Onryoki]

DOA was more serious and more popular (and respected as a fighting game) back in the days just like a lot of (big names) fighting games in the past.

I still remember about Dead or Alive 2 with Virtua Fighter 3 and also KOF98 being at the arcade in my city...

In fact, people really started to joke at DOA after Itagaki left and when the fighting game became a porn fest with DOA5 (without talking of all the stupid DLCs, and the awful story mode).

And DOA6 is better because???? They started with 6 where they left off in 5. So you can shit on DOA5 all day, but 6 isn’t any better.

 

[Napoleon]

Did i say 6 is the best or better ? I defended it, yes.

DOA6 has a better art style, better graphics, better musics, better stages... than DOA5.

To me 6 feels more overall DOA than 5.

"but, but the gameplay ? ..."

Yeah bro, but a video game and a fighting game are not only "a gameplay".

 

[The Juggernaut]

Did i say 6 is the best or better ?

DOA6 has a better art style, better graphics, better musics, better stages... than DOA5.

Ummmm.....

 

[oMASTER LEGENDo]

That pirate ship stage is busted and 4 or 5 of the stages are from previous doas, oh and here is the funny part let's lump all the stages into to one and call it unforgetable.

 

[human013]

Itagaki had a "god complex" should of seen him when people criticized him on Devils Third. Yes he did create Doa but also that man was full of it lmao.

And it shows. Just look at DOA's popularity and reputation.

I'll believe the, "Itagaki is our savior and only he is capable of fixing the new DOA games" when his DOA games are as well respected as the other fighting games and are as popular.

DOA was more serious and more popular (and respected as a fighting game) back in the days just like a lot of (big names) fighting games in the past.

I still remember about Dead or Alive 2 with Virtua Fighter 3 and also KOF98 being at the arcade in my city...

I find that hard to believe based on how people discussed the series before DOA5 released and from to the existence of the DOAX series. The existence of DOAX is why people don't take DOA seriously but you are saying that did not happen during Itagaki's time? People only started to attach DOAX to the DOA fighting games after he left? That does not make sense.

In fact, people really started to joke at DOA after Itagaki left and when the fighting game became a porn fest with DOA5 (without talking of all the stupid DLCs, and the awful story mode).

Again, this just conflicts with what I have seen too much that I just can't believe any of it. What jokes were made about DOA after Itagaki left that did not stem from him directly?

What I have seen:

• DOA sucks because it is a guessing game.
• Holds encourage too much guessing.
• DOA's gameplay just sucks in general.
• DOA is a fighting game? I thought it was a volleyball game.
• DOA isn't a porn game?
• DOA should just become a porn game.
• There are males in the game?
• DOA is just waifu/fetish fighters.
• DOA is the fighting game you play with one hand.
• The DOAX games are better than the fighting games.

This all stems from Itagaki. He laid the foundation with all of his DOA games. From the skimpy outfits and fetish outfits in his fighting games to the pole dancing and whatever else in his DOAX games.

 

[HHH816]

i think TN still holding itagaki values,

- do everything discreetly but produce spectacular product
- less communication to customers

i'm not surprise if itagaki himself in the shadow directing team ninja

 

[Napoleon]

human013

You must be very young to think DOA has never been popular or respected as a fighting game.

I've never seen a fighting game standing over 20 years without never being once popular or respected. That's not a coincidence if this franchise still has a strong fanbase and a community today despite all the bad stuff and bashing through the last 10 years.

There is a before and after DOA4 for Dead or Alive. And it is of course since Itagaki left, but also when Koei took over Tecmo. Then DOA took a massive hit in the face in terms of quality.

And also nobody didn't care at all about the DOAX games before the PS360 era, and i've never met anybody having these stupid games in my entire life either.

You talk about "popularity" :

But Tekken was dead af the last generation, and today it's very popular.

Virtua Fighter is dead af today, but in the past it was very popular.

And there is a lot of examples like that for fighting games. Like KOF, KI, SoulCalibur, MK, Marvel, and even Street Fighter...

 

[rjqnraos19]

graphics:

No.

-20/5

 

[human013]

You must be very young to think DOA has never been popular or respected as a fighting game.

I have not seen any other community praise or recommend DOA in a positive light, so until I see evidence for that I cannot believe that. Take anime fighters for example. Not everyone plays them but they are still better respected than DOA. Look at the numbers anime fighters pull in at tournaments and their ability to create scenes and events specifically for anime fighters. If they were not popular or respected then those events would not be possible.

There has to be a reason why DOA was not able to create what the anime scene was able to create. And, I would say anime fighters had it even worse since the majority of people everywhere, even people here, love to hate anime just because it is anime. They still somehow made it though.

I've never seen a fighting game standing over 20 years without never being once popular or respected. That's not a coincidence if this franchise still has a strong fanbase and a community today despite all the bad stuff and bashing through the last 10 years.

I am talking relatively here. Just because other games lost popularity or had issues does not mean DOA was somehow better. Compare Tekken or SC at their lowest point to the DOA game at that time. Did people suddenly start praising DOA? Or was DOA still treated the same?

There is a before and after DOA4 for Dead or Alive. And it is of course since Itagaki left, but also when Koei took over Tecmo. Then DOA took a massive hit in the face in terms of quality.

So how were all the DOA games before DOA5 treated by people? In the FGC and the public.

And also nobody didn't care at all about the DOAX games before the PS360 era, and i've never met anybody having these stupid games in my entire life either.

It does not matter whether people had it or not. The association to it hurt the DOA fighting games and the DOAX series existed way before DOA5.

You talk about "popularity" :

But Tekken was dead af the last generation, and today it's very popular.

Again, this is all relative. If Tekken is considered dead last gen then what does that mean for last gen DOA? Tekken dipping in popularity doesn't help DOA in it's popularity.

Virtua Fighter is dead af today, but in the past it was very popular.

And there is a lot of examples like that for fighting games. Like KOF, KI, SoulCalibur, MK, Marvel, and even Street Fighter...

And that means DOA is popular?


This is like trying to make myself look good by pointing out the guy who got 2nd place and the guy who got 8th place in a race when I got 6th place. I'm still 6th place no matter what. DOA doesn't get a boost in anything when other games are struggling.

 

[Napoleon]

Yes DOA is "popular".

Like wtf man, Kasumi, Ayane, Hayabusa... are iconic af.

Anybody in the FGC know this game, anybody who is +25 years old know this game.

Maybe a casual or a stupid gamer with awful tastes and with zero video games culture doesn't know DOA.

Do not confuse 2020 and gaming of today, with video games (and fighting games) before the no HD and no internet era.

Yes Dead or Alive was respected when it was "anime" like you say and had great reviews by players and the video games press.

On Dreamcast, on first Xbox, on the Arcade... DOA was lit.

That's why it still exist and still has a fanbase today.

 

[The 4th phase]

doa was good with 1-3, 4 was good aswell but had flaws and some hated.

doa came back with 5, which was a wicked game imo. 6 is decent aside from its flaws and the company's crazy dlc practice.

 

[human013]

Yes DOA is "popular".

Like wtf man, Kasumi, Ayane, Hayabusa... are iconic af.

Anybody in the FGC know this game, anybody who is +25 years old know this game.

Maybe a casual or a stupid gamer with awful tastes and with zero video games culture doesn't know DOA.

Do not confuse 2020 and gaming of today, with video games (and fighting games) before the no HD and no internet era.

Yes Dead or Alive was respected when it was "anime" like you say and had great reviews by players and the video games press.

On Dreamcast, on first Xbox, on the Arcade... DOA was lit.

That's why it still exist and still has a fanbase today.

I'll just have to disagree because DOA's history doesn't reflect any of that and no other community speaks highly about DOA, old or new.

 

[The 4th phase]

its a niche game, it had its share doubter for sure

 

[human013]

True. That exists but it has been over 20 years and the complaints people have now are the same complaints from back then. Did DOA not grow at all or something and that's why the doubters still have a larger impact on the series than the fans? That shouldn't be possible if the DOA community was large.

And speaking about niche, anime was also niche with a negative label attached to it just for existing but they made it. There are tons of doubters but there are enough anime players for that to not matter. There is no reason why DOA can't do the same. Especially when the characters are already appealing visually.