Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate General Discussion

[Kodachi]

Let's cool things off with some casual costume conversation #Yolo

Check out dat Pai sporting some new threads~ as well as a new hair do! muy bueno

 

[TRI Mike]

Im officially REALLY worried now...

 

[Raansu]

So much wrong in this part...

On Force Techs though..there doesn't seem to be any legitimate reason for them beyond "Keep the combo going", which shouldn't be enough of a reason to be able to kick people from the ground back to a standing position without any input on their part. You knocked them down, combo should end then. It's literally a mechanic to encourage KICKING PEOPLE WHILE THEY ARE DOWN. Think about it, how screwed up is THAT? Force teching is essentially the very definition of poor sportsmanship.

Wouldn't be surprised if they took the next step and made it so you could force tech people straight into a juggle. Let's go the whole distance and make the game take no effort at all! Force tech to knocked down opponent resulting in immediate air juggle leading to 60% life loss!

I'll never understand why people want things to be so easy...

So yeah, I don't like force techs, think they should be removed almost entirely. That is my opinion on the matter. Carry on.

Holy crap, you are like the literal definition of what a scrub is. If you don't like being force tech'd then do this magical thing called tech rolling. Stop sitting there trying to get a wake up kick giving them free damage and fucking tech roll.

You must be one hardcore button masher.

 

[ScattereDreams]

You guys said Health was increased back to 300 and holds do more damage in ultimate? But doesn't that cancel out since health was increased, unless the damage that holds do now is way higher than it was in DOA5 vanilla when health was originally 300?

 

[David Gregg]

You guys said Health was increased back to 300 and holds now do more damage? But doesn't that cancel out since health was increased unless the damage that holds do now is way higher than it was in DOA5 vanilla when the health was already originally 300?

That's why I'm confused and why I asked about the critical threshold. What exactly changes if they up the damage on everything?

Holds do NOT need to have higher damage though I hope they realize that.

 

[grap3fruitman]

I suppose if your play-style revolves around only holding people since everything else seems to be getting damage nerfs...

 

[Koompbala]

So bout that core fighters its looking better and better the more info I hear about this game. Just wish it came to 360 I would rather not waste my money on 5U the way its looking.

On Force Techs

You mad bad

 

[ScattereDreams]

So it sounds like TN is butchering the game because they're taking feedback from Japanese players, which I don't understand because I thought DOA was more competitive in the states?

 

[synce]

So it sounds like TN is butchering the game because they're taking feedback from Japanese players, which I don't understand because I thought DOA was more competitive in the states?

If they were taking feedback from Japanese players 5U will have a ton of guaranteed combos because that was the #1 most requested thing in 5U from a Japanese fan survey sent to TN. We'll see if they at least deliver on that, because matches are definitely longer now and the ground game may have been completely overhauled. Anyone remember the force tech glitch in 1.03? Maybe wasn't a glitch but a work in progress

 

[Matt Ponton]

You guys said Health was increased back to 300 and holds do more damage in ultimate? But doesn't that cancel out since health was increased, unless the damage that holds do now is way higher than it was in DOA5 vanilla when health was originally 300?

No because attacks are about the same damage according to most reports and the threshold is the same. Meaning more time playing the critical threshold game.

 

[HoodsXx]

You guys said Health was increased back to 300 and holds do more damage in ultimate? But doesn't that cancel out since health was increased, unless the damage that holds do now is way higher than it was in DOA5 vanilla when health was originally 300?

Ever heard of DOA4? I'm pretty sure even if health in DOA4 was 300 hp. The amount of dmg holds did in that game was still ridiculously stupid. So... Depends, but I doubt it'll "balance" it out.

 

[Matt Ponton]

Ever heard of DOA4? I'm pretty sure even if health in DOA4 was 300 hp. The amount of dmg holds did in that game was still ridiculously stupid. So... Depends, but I doubt it'll "balance" it out.

DOA4 used 240 hp.

 

[David Gregg]

If they were taking feedback from Japanese players 5U will have a ton of guaranteed combos because that was the #1 most requested thing in 5U from a Japanese fan survey sent to TN. We'll see if they at least deliver on that, because matches are definitely longer now and the ground game may have been completely overhauled. Anyone remember the force tech glitch in 1.03? Maybe wasn't a glitch but a work in progress

See now that actually makes sense! (I want DOA to be more combo based anyway). Hopefully that's the case though. If not and they still made those other changes...

 

[The Juggernaut]

So much wrong in this part...

On Force Techs though..there doesn't seem to be any legitimate reason for them beyond "Keep the combo going", which shouldn't be enough of a reason to be able to kick people from the ground back to a standing position without any input on their part. You knocked them down, combo should end then. It's literally a mechanic to encourage KICKING PEOPLE WHILE THEY ARE DOWN. Think about it, how screwed up is THAT? Force teching is essentially the very definition of poor sportsmanship.

Wouldn't be surprised if they took the next step and made it so you could force tech people straight into a juggle. Let's go the whole distance and make the game take no effort at all! Force tech to knocked down opponent resulting in immediate air juggle leading to 60% life loss!

I'll never understand why people want things to be so easy...

So yeah, I don't like force techs, think they should be removed almost entirely. That is my opinion on the matter. Carry on.

SilverKhaos, is that you?

 

[grap3fruitman]

If they were taking feedback from Japanese players 5U will have a ton of guaranteed combos

Not sure where you got that impression. Team Ninja said directly to the face of people on this forum that Japanese players prefer the DOA4 style gameplay.

 

[synce]

See now that actually makes sense! (I want DOA to be more combo based anyway). Hopefully that's the case though. If not and they still made those other changes...

It's tough to tell... I have a list of all nerfs/buffs so far and the ratio is like 9:1 lol But I really want to believe it's because people are playing DOA5 instead of 5U. If TN implemented proper bound then we might have longer, Tekken style juggles and the lifebar increase might make more sense. I wish TN would release a combo video

 

[David Gregg]

Not sure where you got that impression. Team Ninja said directly to the face of people on this forum that Japanese players prefer the DOA4 style gameplay.

Why would anyone prefer 4? They better keep the timing window for holds tiny as hell then b/c I don't want to relive the nightmare that was DOA 4.

 

[SilverForte]

I don't get it. Aren't western players the main competitive group for doa? Why are they catering to the japanese so much if it will just ruin the game?

 

[synce]

lol For the thousandth time, it's not a regional thing. Read a few posts up... anyway here is the survey I talked about

http://doa.gg-blog.com/Entry/661/

If you want to see why DOA will always be a joke, go to twitter. Almost nobody is talking about gameplay, most DOA fans care more about the costumes (on twitter anyway). And before that, people wouldn't shut up about Rachel.

 

[Mesharey]