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  • Heikou
    Mashing out of throw punishes for that juicy HiC damage #JustOnlineThings
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    Force_of_Nature
    Force_of_Nature
    Lol, Some people do it offline too =P.
    Zeo
    Zeo
    Well... offline at least that's just people reacting too slow to unsafe moves. People that do unsafe moves SHOULD mash just in case the punish is too slow!
    Heikou
    Heikou
    Yeah, not fun buffering it while still in block stun then being hit HiC anyway.
    Heikou
    Anyone else think PBs should have less reward and PLs should have more?
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    Heikou
    Heikou
    Kokoro, Akira, Jacky. They all get good damage (especially Jacky), but PB tends to be the better option on any stage with a breakable object or danger zone.
    Codemaster92163
    Codemaster92163
    I prefer PLs when there's breakables since PBs tend to push you too far away to capitalize on them. Danger zones yeah, I always go for the PB (car, statue, elevator, etc.). But yeah, Jacky gets amazing PL damage.
    Force_of_Nature
    Force_of_Nature
    PB's are fine. PL's are quite frankly unnecessary.
    Heikou
    Oki in this game is kind of weird. The risk / reward on wakeup kicks just doesn't seem right to me.
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    Heikou
    Heikou
    I might just be missing something. Wakeup kicks only risk a low throw or putting yourself at -6, but initiate stun game on CH. They only seem particularly dangerous to use when they whiff. Not all characters have a plethora of options for making wakeup kicks whiff.
    Heikou
    Heikou
    KBD also doesn't seem fast enough to backdash to safety after tricking the opponent into using a wakeup kick.
    iHajinShinobi
    iHajinShinobi
    KBD actually does work wonders for getting away. It just depends on the kind of combo you're using that'll get the ground game started. Because the recovery on the strike or string will matter.
    Heikou
    Anyone on PSN feel like playing? Haven't played someone who stops attacking when they're -5 in too long.
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    Heikou
    Heikou
    It's fine that it's safe, but when they keep pressing buttons after finishing a string that leaves them -5 and I can't interrupt it because online's garbage, it upsets me. Rather than being upset, I'd like to find people to play with who actually respect frame data.
    Brute
    Brute
    I just realized that I totally didn't come on like I said I would.
    Sorry. My bad.
    Heikou
    Heikou
    It's fine. I'm good to play pretty much any time for the next 7 hours, so if you feel like playing and I'm not on PSN just shoot me a message on here.
    Heikou
    I feel like Akira deals with marginally less bullshit than Kokoro. Especially online.
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    Heikou
    Heikou
    His 4P+K has a lovely hit box for whiff punishing, or catching people who start strings from too far away for the first hit to connect. It's a crumple stun to boot. Lovely move in general to shut people down then they just feel like spamming.
    Heikou
    Heikou
    when they just feel like spamming*
    samuraihachi
    samuraihachi
    Interesting. I'll give that a shot. I've mainly relied on SS K*T, 214P or 2_3P+K for whiff punishing.
    Heikou
    Still waiting for Kokoro to have more than three good outfits. I believe in you, TN!
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    Gurimmjaw
    Gurimmjaw
    I think Kokoro's C7 her best one lol.
    Heikou
    Heikou
    That costumes actually one of my least favorite. Doesn't feel like it fits her. I dislike the two bunny suits the most, though. I took her off of my random filter because I can't choose which costumes she gets.
    Gurimmjaw
    Gurimmjaw
    You don't like it? I guess in a way it doesn't fit her though it is a great design. My favorite one of hers. I also like a few of her other ones as well. The bunny ones I can see why you dislike them.
    Heikou
    Would anyone mind giving me some tips on fighting Lisa? I end up turtling, so I'm pretty free against her.
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    Brute
    Brute
    Crush high constantly to avoid her OHs. Don't get lazy and buffer holds before she begins her next attack animation (she's looking for those HiC abuses). See if you can force her into a corner where she has nowhere to go.
    Her jab is i11 and her fastest mids are i14 (6P and 6k). Unless she is BT,
    Brute
    Brute
    in which case BT 4P+K is i12. Most of her strings are unsafe, but they can be delayed, which she abuses for maskeshift safety. Learn when your specific opponent likes to free-cancel through observation and then retaliate when you see the set-up again. She's slow, so the free-canceling puts her at a clear disadvantage so long as you don't wait for any delay follow-ups.
    Heikou
    Heikou
    I see... I guess I'll need to find some good Lisa players to gain some MU understanding. Most I've played just mash (and still beat me).
    Heikou
    Been thinking about picking up Tekken. Looks so clunky that I'm reluctant to get the new game without being able to test it out first.
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    David Gregg
    David Gregg
    It's definitely worth trying especially now that Tekken 7 is confirmed.
    Force_of_Nature
    Force_of_Nature
    You can try Tekken Rev but it's a scrubby ass game. Tekken Tag 2 should be cheap now.
    Heikou
    Heikou
    I'll give Tekken Rev a shot, then. Probably won't play it all that often even if I enjoy it, admittedly.
    Gurimmjaw
    Sorry man, was in a lobby at the time when you wanted to play. We can play tomorrow if you're on.
    Heikou
    Heikou
    I'll be on tomorrow. I'm on every day. Up for a game any time I'm on PSN most likely. Just DoA for the next 3 or 4 days, but after that VF's good too.
    Heikou
    Phase4's pretty high tier online.
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    tokiopewpew
    tokiopewpew
    :S
    If you would tell us more detailed when you do not understand something, I or anybody else here would explain it to you. Don't be too shy to just ask, there's nothing wrong about it and otherwise, conversations will be always confusing to you.
    Heikou
    Heikou
    I don't have Phase4 to test her frames out, but does her PP2K really not stun for long enough for P / 6P to not connect with SE on fastest?
    tokiopewpew
    tokiopewpew
    No, like Kasumi's 4P or 6P, it can be blocked if you are able to perfom a SE on fastest after getting stunned by the low kick. Though it's very hard to do, since 2K comes out very fast.
    Heikou
    Any Rig players on PSN want to play a Jacky / Kokoro player? Have yet to find a Rig player that doesn't just mash.
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    DestructionBomb
    DestructionBomb
    Overall...it's harder to punish it online so it's debatable.
    Heikou
    Heikou
    I see... Kind of interesting. I still want to play a good Rig player. One that can slow escape and doesn't hit buttons on wakeup every single time.
    Brute
    Brute
    It's more than frame end frames, though. He's got plenty of strings, good mix-ups and delays coming out of those, and a fair number are safe or even give him plus frames. Rig can be played much safer than a lot of other characters can, such as Phase 4 or w/e

    By DOA standards, Rig is a safe character, imo
    Heikou
    Am I just an idiot or is it nearly impossible to fuzzy guard online?
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    Tenryuga
    Tenryuga
    yes it is impossible unfortunately. Still not bad to try to punish throws with launchers. HIGH RISK HIGH REWARD FTW!!!
    Heikou
    Heikou
    I'm not really a "high risk" type of player, but I guess it can't be helped (online, at least) with reset throw spam and constant tick throwing.
    Tenryuga
    Tenryuga
    Indeed
    Heikou
    Why does Sarah have lows that stun on NH again?
    Nuke-Nin
    Nuke-Nin
    She never closes her mouth, shes tall as fuck like a short necked giraffe with long as fuk legs and she goes "YAH YAH YAH" every second of every un-mute torturous minute of every day. she needs all the help she can get/doesn't need



    #Sarah4lyfe
    iHajinShinobi
    iHajinShinobi
    My character have has lows that stun on normal hit as well. So does Helena. If my BT2P gave me the +17 stun on normal hit, she'd be dumb lol (only stuns in threshold and counter hit).
    Heikou
    Am I the only one who accidentally SE's into crouching state? I keep getting hit by mids...
    Chapstick
    Chapstick
    I accidentally hold sometimes SE'ing by pressing a direction with guard instead of hitting guard then a split second later attacking all the buttons. It's gotten me hiC thrown quite a few times

    Which makes me mad because they think I fell for their hold baiting >:/
    Heikou
    Heikou
    Yeah, that's damn frustrating. Especially when the HiC throw is enough to finish the round.
    Tenryuga
    Was wondering If you'd mind sparring again sometime? Your defense is good; You don't overuse holds and opt to SE more often. Players like this tend to give me trouble and I'd like the Akira MU exp. Also are you gonna be playing anime fighters other than P4A2? Would be cool to face off in those as well.
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    Tenryuga
    Tenryuga
    Shoutout to being a fellow persona fan! That's cool. Who do you play in those? When P4A2 drops I'll be learning the game a bit past the casual level and will use Narukami.
    Heikou
    Heikou
    Labrys main; don't play anyone else. Thankfully I don't try as hard at that game as this one. I'd have broken my stick trying to play against Mitsuru.
    Tenryuga
    Tenryuga
    LOL I don't think I have ever defeated a single Mitsuru player. it was always her and Aigis that made me rage.
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