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S Kokoro、Hitomi、Mila、Rachel A+ Kasumi、Hayate、Hayabusa、Momiji、Christie、Rig、Sarah、Helena A Gen Fu、Leifang、Bayman、Jann Lee B Tina、Bass、Eliot、Lisa、Leon、Jacky、Pai、Ayane、Brad、Zack C Ein、Alpha Ｓ　　Hitomi、Rachel、Helena、Sarah、Hayate、Kokoro A＋　Christie、Rig、Mila、Momiji、Hayabusa、Kasumi、Lisa Ａ　Zack、Gen...

Bayman is gimmicky but I-No is not? :v She's essentially Rachel to the extreme, but harder to use. Mediocre everything except mixups. She gets you to block anything and you're stuck blocking her ridiculous, near impossible to block mixups. Get caught and you're you're getting combo'd and...

Like I said before, the low kick and the OH from her jabs aren't a mixup. Just crouch block. Her mid option puts the opponent at advantageous spacing. Free cancel options are slow enough to be reactable. It's a lot weaker than say Kokoro's PPT, even though it is an OH. Her running attacks are...

Would you rather someone sandbag instead of playing their best?

You'd love 2D anime, then.

Right, that's what I've been doing. Still hella dumb doing 2 HiCH 214Ts and having them with life left, though.

What do you mean? I mean, Kokoro can still do damage perfectly fine if the other guy doesn't hold. It's just that some elementary Kokoro knowledge makes it fairly simple to predict what Kokoro will extend stun with if she really wants to do a combo. She doesn't have her good sitdown stun stuff...

I won't say that I enjoy it, but some of my most memorable fights involve stuff like that.

Did you know that Kokoro can do 3 HiCH three part throws successfully and still have them survive? I mean, obviously this would be near impossible in a real game 'cause there would be pokes thrown in, but I get pretty upset when I get two throws and then they survive on a sliver of health...

Well, I mean, even if you do your homework, she's still strong once she gets a hit in. It's just that she isn't as broken as people say. EDIT: I'd personally like her damage to be nerfed, 'cause she has okizeme and a good stun launch game when a lot of the cast have neither. That said, I'd much...

This is really a thing, honestly. You won't find me agreeing with d3v on anything else, but Rachel does have bad matchup against the rest of the characters that are considered high tier.

I believe attacks always do CH damage on backhit, so that's 25%. EDIT: lol I opened up this page before I played a few games and came back and didn't refresh. Hella late. ;_;

Fastest move is 11f P, like Tina's. EDIT: She is slow, though, and relies heavily on stuff like her standing OH and 2H+K to keep up with other characters. As well as the stomp, of course.

She just puts you in a nitaku situation. Just guess right on the 50/50 and you're out and back in charge. It's not like you're flat out dead after you get hit once. Each iteration only does like 80 damage or so. Nerf the damage by a tiny bit (like 10 damage) and no one will complain about her...

If you get hit by two of those in one round, you really deserved to lose that round. Critical holding against a grappler a second time after they proved they know how to punish it the first time? Why. High level mind games.

This is similar to what I told the guys at my locals. I just crouch block after PP. The throw whiffs and the kick is blocked. Her mid option knocks back, which mean you spend a tiny bit of health to get good spacing (IaMP tactics!). Free cancel options are easily reactable.

Yeah, lots of my matches are ending with a tiny sliver of health left and it becomes a game of "Will he 2P?" Definitely would rather less health. Also, buff Kokoro's 214T. As far as I know, everyone's 12f throw has been buffed EXCEPT for her 3 part throw. I mean, just why would Ayane's throw do...

Yeah, she has "new tools" but those tools are for getting around her nerfs. Plus, she could always go for a lot of the "new" options even in 5, but no one did 'cause they weren't optimal in that version. I feel like I'm calling Emperor's clothes or something. Her "buff" in 5U was essentially...

I'd definitely would say that Christie is a lot better, but it's not like Kokoro is absolute garbage. Tiers in DOA are fairly close, 'cause of the triangle system. I know you already said it, but it's better to just play who you like.

Right, that's why I want her stomp to stay the way it is or be even stronger (by giving her guaranteed stomp setups). If people feel that she's too strong, nerf other stuff. Take out her okizeme and she's nothing special. I want characters that are all strong at their own individual niche.