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You guys are gonna call me nuts, but Ryu needs a buff. Just something to make him viable. Right now he is borderline unplayable.

Thanks. Think I got em all fixed.

Gonna double post since I updated the op.

Hayate is pretty bad I hear, but at least he can play Doa 4....Ryu can't even do that. So I might go with him or Ayane. I like to be loyal to my main but damn. The amount of work you have to do to win is unreal.

Mid punch.....mid punch....mid punch. He has no stuns.

CB is kinda a waste for him........

Yeah, the window is pretty small. It takes some practice to get it down. Btw I have my guide up at ign. It is pretty sugar coated though. When I get a chance I''m gonna bug a mod so I can ask for some dummy posts to get the whole thing to fit here at fsd. Wanna see what people here say and what...

Ok, I posted what I got. Not very happy with it. Something has to be better then nothing though.

I agree. Was just throwing them out there. At least they can beat SE. From what I can tell she doesn't have any real use for CB. The risk vs reward just isn't right. Maybe with further testing something will be found. Just need that missing puzzle piece. On CH F+K you can hit 66KK4 4PK. Should...

From what I can see Ayane doesn't really have too many stuns deep enough to beat out an SE. In regards to landing a CB I mean. Her PP stun is one of her few options that I can see. CH 6K2K PP 6P+K. Beats all SE but is not really a great setup by any means. CH 2K 6K_6P PP 6P+K That 2K on...

Then don't use highs or standing throws when you get them in stun. If the risk isn't worth it, don't do it. If they randomly hold they have a 1 in 4 chance of getting out of it. 1 in 3 if they never high hold. There is always guessing when it comes to the stun game. I would like to see more...

I think maybe it should be the other way around. If low holds are so evasive, why ever go high or do a standing throw? Highs and throws are in general your better moves. Either because of them being faster or giving better damage. You are taking a risk, the reward is better damage.

Low holds are an option select. With 4 point you have options to beat the low hold. Mid punch or mid kick. Low throw or slow lows. If you go high or do a standing throw they guessed or read you right. What if they SE into an instant high crush? That beats throws and highs as well. You can even...

I think it is just for matchup discussion and comparison. I admit having kick speed is a little random though. This would be useful for small frame trap setups such as +1 or +2, even neutral traps.

Fastest mid punch and mid kick is very important as well. Nice work man. Sure to come in handy.

I'm working on this still. I have a few documents written up, just not very happy with them. Once I get them how I want em it will pretty much be copy and paste job.

Go Pup!

No problem. Chances are it is my fault lol.Just glad I checked here and didn't keep waiting around. I get to play offline soon anyways. ;)

I guess it was the wrong gamertag @_@. I should have payed more attention.

Does the * mean I was dqed?