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The stun threshold in the beta is the same as 4, you can just get a better launch from one stun than you could before so it's not really smart to do it. And extending the stun isn't the point, the fact that the best launchers and stuns are mid and you can just wait for them and hold. Defence is...

You quoted me too soon! Go back and re do it! lol There aren't considerably more options in the demo. Just walls, and Hitomi's sidestep kick as far as I know. When you're out in the middle its still the same guessing game. There's a base of three that work for every situation. If a person is...

There are 5 points but they don't work the same. There's still a base of 3 and 2 or more advanced that give more damage. It doesn't matter if they do no damage, the ability to guess out of every stun is still there. (They shouldn't do no damage because throws would kill them) It is a mid...

Speak the truth, Allan Paris does.

4 point wasn't introduced because of damage, it was introduced because it worked better for the system. DOA is a mid heavy game. The ability to hold needs to be hindered, 'nuff said. 3 point is too easy even with the ability to hold in stun reduced.

He and I were just talking about it in that... other thread. I have no idea which it is, could be this one... I don't pay attention. Also in the beta you get a decent launch after the first stun so you can launch with a mid every time or throw. Mid attacks hit every level so only a mid hold...

His chest isn't big enough

:o.... Who knew....

But she's not Asian.... =/

They have big feet?

If you wanna get technical, it's Counter Blow. Unless it's been changed from 4

I don't think that's what he meant

That's not true, it resets when you hold. You're getting the CH from attacking them when they're stunned. You can hold forever. They either hold or SE in stun. It doesn't matter what level it's at because there's standing and crouching; you attack mid or throw. That's a 50/50. UNLESS they SE...

Get the first hit! lol

I don't see any problem with 6 point.... How is that going to put off new players, you still have the ability to hold. You'd have to have mid holds advanced to make them more difficult, but holds are holds, people will get used to whatever they have. The discussion is about 3 or 4 though, and...

I understand, I'd see that working with the players online or just the random guy, but against good players I can see sticking to just a couple things making it more difficult. At some point you'd have to go out side the box. Naturally you could just do the same thing over and over and train...

Lol But you still have to guess the same, whichever way you spin it. You still have to know if they're gonna hold the mid or if they know you're gonna go for the throw. And if we're talking about 4, if they can crush your mids.

It's the same guessing game over and over again though. I like guessing to a degree, too, but there's a point where it just gets ridiculous. DOA4 is that point. Stun - is he gonna hold or isn't he gonna hold If they're a good player they might know you know they're gonna hold, then they launch...

:( Yes

Everything good is mid. All you do is wait for mids and hold mid. Then the other person guesses that you're gonna hold and throw you or wait for it and launch you, or throw a high. Then you know they're expecting you to hold mid so you attack them when they try to throw you, but they knew you...