Omegan Eckhart
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I counted about 47 untechable set ups with Helena last time I checked. Busa's still a bigger f&*$£!t though I won't disagree with that lol
DoA 5 Gen Fu topic.
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Aren't there three characters with 9 frame jabs in 4? Kasumi and Christie are obvious, but I thought Zack had one as well.
Omegan Eckhart
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Nah only two, Zack wasn't so lucky lol
Tenren
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I was joking, I have never taken Fu into training mode what so ever.
Almost everyone has 9/10 frame jabs? Are you sure about that? Helena does not, neither does Leon or Tina or Bayman or Bass or La Mariposa or Tengu or Brad Wong. Only two characters have 9 frame jabs, do you know who they are?
Hisis pretty easy to crush? Okay outside of characters that can crush mid attacks, Fu, Helena and Busa how many characters can crush it?
You are saying that
Are you saying his damage is average because that's the best damage you can get off of a high crush with no additional stun? You are getting a basic launch off of a high crush, how much damage do expect to get off of that? I just did
I'm usually polite but if you want to refer to yourself as high lev and then write all that crap that is completely wrong I will call you on it.
uh your giving me a headache
No he is right that only Kasumi & Christie. Zacks is 10. I was saying most of the cast have either a 9 or 10 frame punch and if they dont they have an 11 frame. Even tengus
i believe is 10 frames. Id have to look. I believe Lisa is the slowest with a 12 frame jab. Take your time and read the frame date i posted up a year ago http://www.freestepdodge.com/threads/why-is-doa-4-0-better-than-4-1.485/Everyone can crush his
with a low attack, even some mids can crush it out. Its an 11 frame attack so any with a 10 frame or faster jab can beat it out. Jann Lee has the only true mid in the game. Also crush means you pushed the button after they started theirs and your attack beat it out.I said that juggle only works on either light weight or with a counter blow. You just proved me right by saying you did it on a med weight with a counter hit. 69 points of damage on a counter blow is weak. Kasumi basic ppppp string dose 62. Heres a good tip. You can also get away with a better juggle but still using the counter blow
but hold keep holding then follow with then your normal combo. If timed right you can refloat then with , Its an option select. Since your holding the it tricks DOA into thing your using . Also playing as Busa or Hayate I can juggle combo 115 damage all day and even get 150 with 2 wall splats. Fus damage is ok but not high.I never once refereed to myself as high lev. I have however played in the WCG also in CGS online qualifiers, god knows how many online tournaments and other offline but never place top 3. Ive also been part of the community for about 10 years and have played competitively since DOA3. But if I can state the facts have the frame data to prove it and have then i must be high level lol
One last thing. If you never practice or took the time to learn Gen Fu dont try to teach others please.
Jefffcore
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Everyone can crush his
That's not quite accurate. Only 3 characters have the ability to crush mids at 0 frames. Bayman for example can crush mids with his low sweep, and Hayate can jump over it with 214p, but neither work instantly.
A crush means your hit box changes to avoid there's.
Ah word. I could've sworn he had one in 4. My mistake.
Omegan Eckhart
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#1 There is no such thing as a 10 frame mid poke in DOA4. 11 frames are the fastest.
#2 Name me another character who gets more damage off of a basic high crush launch.
#3 Some characters have 12 frame jabs.
#4 Everyone can crush Gen Fu's 6P with a low? Really? That is the most stupid thing I have heard in a long time.
#5 Hayate's juggle damage is the highest in the game.
I'm lmao reading your post, you say you've been at this for 10 years and you still don't know what you are talking about. You honestly believe that every character can crush Gen Fu's 6P with a low? How does that work? Lows lose to mid's based on speed and their hit boxes do not lower enough to avoid a mid attack, with the exception of Busa's 2F+K. You can't even beat it out on speed as the fastest low in the game is 12 frames.
High's > Mids based on speed
Mid's > Lows based on speed
Lows > High's based on hit box data (crush)
I'm gonna give up here seeing as I keep correcting the completely wrong information you are posting and you proceed to post more of it anyway. I suggest you ask some decent players about this crap your posting. If you can find a reputable player who agrees that you can universally use lows to crush mid's I'll give you a cookie.
#2 Name me another character who gets more damage off of a basic high crush launch.
#3 Some characters have 12 frame jabs.
#4 Everyone can crush Gen Fu's 6P with a low? Really? That is the most stupid thing I have heard in a long time.
#5 Hayate's juggle damage is the highest in the game.
I'm lmao reading your post, you say you've been at this for 10 years and you still don't know what you are talking about. You honestly believe that every character can crush Gen Fu's 6P with a low? How does that work? Lows lose to mid's based on speed and their hit boxes do not lower enough to avoid a mid attack, with the exception of Busa's 2F+K. You can't even beat it out on speed as the fastest low in the game is 12 frames.
High's > Mids based on speed
Mid's > Lows based on speed
Lows > High's based on hit box data (crush)
I'm gonna give up here seeing as I keep correcting the completely wrong information you are posting and you proceed to post more of it anyway. I suggest you ask some decent players about this crap your posting. If you can find a reputable player who agrees that you can universally use lows to crush mid's I'll give you a cookie.
Why are we talking about DOA4 Gen Fu in the DOA5 Gen Fu topic?
I'm playing DOA3 GenFu, so some of these combos are different.
Jefffcore
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Because DOA5 isn't out to be able to talk about DOA5 Gen Fu. These threads didn't really need to be made yet
It's all for DOA4
Snipeclips
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I am loving this man right now, why isn't there anything more about, especially after its release? I would kill for someone to give me the ins and outs of him.
Is it just me or does the second of his string tend to whiff sometimes?
He has a weird hit-box too.
of his string tend to whiff sometimes?He has a weird hit-box too.