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[hardseppo]

Monica Gravure Panel (Royal Flush SSR)

DoAX Venus Vacation :: Monica Gravure Panel (Royal Flush SSR)

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[otnesse]

I actually like Monica - but this is what we call being damned by faint praise, lmao.

Like, she's not 18, she's not Japanese, and she's not a moe blob. That's all she's got going for her, but at this point I'm pleasantly surprised.

@otnesse: Honestly, the papanasi thing is a lot to go on, considering Marie's favorite food is Swedish prinsessbakelser (which, as a fellow Swede, I personally hate ) and NiCO's is the Finnish joulutorttu. Mila likes seafood paella, and she's from Spain, and Diego is implied to be Mexican-American, and he likes tacos. Luna might be Ukrainian, what with her thing for potatoes, but who knows...

My point is, papanasi is way too specific a favorite food, to not be a reference to something. Searching up "papanasi" on Google yields twelve pages of results, most of which are in Romanian, and the English wikipedia article is four sentences long. If it matters, the JP article is even shorter.

I'm all for giving someone the benefit of doubt, but with the character designs we've seen for DOA lately - I'm just saying, it wouldn't exactly be fair to praise them for creativity...

Romania's kind of a unique nationality to give someone in a fighting game - which I know DOAX is not, but roll with it - anyway, so I'm happy with that.

Hey, it's not that I disagree with you. If anything, I'm more in agreement than disagreement. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who reject that idea, and are even willing to cite, for example, that Kasumi's favorite food is strawberry mileufille, and asked sarcastically if that means Kasumi's French. I'd know because someone (an anonymous editor) who undid my edit to her trivia section on Dead or Alive Wiki listing that she was implied to be Eastern European gave that exact remark when refuting it. Here, I'll show you: https://deadoralive.fandom.com/index.php?title=Monica&diff=122428&oldid=122424 That's why I need a LOT more than just her favorite foods to give any indication for where she hailed from, to make sure the charges stick.

As far as moe blobs, I'm hesitant to call Nagisa a moe-blob, or Tamaki for that matter, or Misaki, or Fiona, or even Luna. I'll probably give you Kanna, though she's technically over a millennium old.

Besides, she's actually the third DOAXVV add-on girl to not be Japanese (not counting Leifang), the others being Luna and Fiona. And we've also got Nagisa, Tamaki, and technically Kanna regarding non-18 year olds.

Still, she's at least bringing a likely new feature to the game (well, okay, not quite new, but new to that particular game), like, I don't know, actual access to the casino and maybe even pole dancing based on some leaks, so she definitely has that going for her (though I still think they ought to actually add in the cut girls next, it's already been long enough since Leifang was added in, so might as well add the next cut girl in, whoever they deem appropriate.).

 

[hardseppo]

Nyotengu Gravure Panel (Shinovi Master Swimsuit Murakamo SSR) with lotions

DoAX Venus Vacation :: Nyotengu Gravure Panel (Shinobi Master Swimsuit Murakamo SSR) with lotions

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Ayane Gravure Panel (Stella Leo SSR) with lotions

DoAX Venus Vacation :: Ayane Gravure Panel (Stella Leo SSR) with lotions

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and something special :wink:

Misaki Gravure Panel (Stella Cancer SSR) with malfunction and lotions

DoAX Venus Vacation :: Misaki Gravure Panel (Stella Cancer SSR) with malfunction and lotions

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[hardseppo]

Monica Gravure Panel (Bombay SR)

DoAX Venus Vacation :: Monica Gravure Panel (Bombay SR)

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Momiji Gravure Panel (Half Sail SSR) with lotions

DoAX Venus Vacation :: Momiji Gravure Panel (Half Sail SSR) with lotions

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Kasumi Gravure Panel (Halation SSR) with lotions

DoAX Venus Vacation :: Kasumi Gravure Panel (Halation SSR) with lotions

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[belts]

Monica looks too much like Misaki for me to truly appreciate her as a new character.

 

[Tyaren]

Those are literally the same character models, lol:

The "character design" of the DOAXVV girls is some of the worst I've seen in any professionally produced "video game".
That you guys are actually discussing the culture, religion and politics of these "characters" is honestly hilarious. Whoever "designs" these things doesn't give the slightest fuck. They create a random, fetishized anime blow up doll, slap a random wig, a random name, a random age, random country and random desert on them. Done, there's your DOAXVV girl for ya, lol.

 

[Dionysus]

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Those are literally the same character models, lol:

The "character design" of the DOAXVV girls is some of the worst I've seen in any professionally produced "video game".
That you guys are actually discussing the culture, religion and politics of these "characters" is honestly hilarious. Whoever "designs" these things doesn't give the slightest fuck. They create a random, fetishized anime blow up doll, slap a random wig, a random name, a random age, random country and random desert on them. Done, there's your DOAXVV girl for ya, lol.

I agree. The only one with some character is Kanna, who would be better off not existing at all. Further, the character interactions in XVV are low-effort nonsense. Imagine seeing Honoka make a statement about how she’s bad at school, I.E. an obvious attempt to make her more attractive to otaku who want a sense of superiority. This is pandering at its worst.

And yet Honoka defenders say this is really good character development and she’s a good character now if you just read all the XVV interactions that are so important you can’t even get them after they expire

 

[U_C_A_F]

Those are literally the same character models, lol:

The "character design" of the DOAXVV girls is some of the worst I've seen in any professionally produced "video game".
That you guys are actually discussing the culture, religion and politics of these "characters" is honestly hilarious. Whoever "designs" these things doesn't give the slightest fuck. They create a random, fetishized anime blow up doll, slap a random wig, a random name, a random age, random country and random desert on them. Done, there's your DOAXVV girl for ya, lol.

this shit is hilarious now watch someone desperately refute this claiming they look nothing alike pointing out slight nose differences and other shit like how many still try to claim with Marie/Honoka.

 

[otnesse]

Yeah, about Monica, her face has more of a resemblance to Fiona than to Misaki. And Fiona's face isn't even THAT similar to Misaki's anyhow. Besides, they at least put more effort into DOAXVV's character designs than they did in DOA6's character designs (I won't touch the Honoka/Marie thing at all, because lets face it, even before their debut, lots of the girls had very similar features to each other in DOA5). Might as well also point out that Monica towers over Kasumi, so that's another difference between her and Misaki. It's pretty obvious they're not the same character models just by having the two stand together going by height alone.

And as far as DOAXVV's character interactions, at least it's actually GOT character interactions, unlike DOAX3 which utterly lacked them entirely, and that was despite Hayashi promising "more meaningful" interactions with the girls. Heck, you might as well assume the girl you choose first is the ONLY girl on the island if you ignore the minigames, and that's DESPITE Xtreme and Xtreme 2/Paradise having partner recruitment intro scenes (like the hilarious one involving Lisa and Helena), or how about Be Friendly Gravures?

And as far as the snarky comment about culture, nationality, and politics, I don't recall ever mentioning the girls' politics (not the DOAXVV girls, anyway). And besides, technically, the same can be argued for a LOT of the female characters in the series, didn't stop them from making their nationalities clear in the main games.

 

[Dionysus]

DOAXVV's character interactions are bad. Consider Nagisa's most common action is to respond to being viewed at unwillingly when she gets a new costume. The basic level of interaction is simply being a creep. All reasonable human behaviour would involve the owner getting beaten up and forgotten, and the girl's instituting a council and self-managing their time on the island. The owner is impossible to reconcile with reality, because the idea has no point of contact with reality. The girls make their unreality clear with every interaction, damaging the ability to take them seriously. This is why VV is harmful to the main series. Their interactions with each other all take place with this background and are thus compromised.

 

[otnesse]

DOAXVV's character interactions are bad. Consider Nagisa's most common action is to respond to being viewed at unwillingly when she gets a new costume. The basic level of interaction is simply being a creep. All reasonable human behaviour would involve the owner getting beaten up and forgotten, and the girl's instituting a council and self-managing their time on the island. The owner is impossible to reconcile with reality, because the idea has no point of contact with reality. The girls make their unreality clear with every interaction, damaging the ability to take them seriously. This is why VV is harmful to the main series. Their interactions with each other all take place with this background and are thus compromised.

Like I said, at least there's actual interaction between the girls, which is STILL better than DOAX3, which had NONE of the girls interacting with each other at all, not even as partners beyond the most generic manner possible (seriously, where are the be friendly gravures? Or how about character recruitment scenes like this gem: http://dead-or-alive-club.deviantart.com/art/Lisa-trolls-Helena-442797409?hf=1 Heck, some reveals such as Lisa being bad at gift-giving or Christie being afraid of bugs. The closest to any character reveals at all are Nyotengu having some fondness for humanity, and Honoka being somewhat homesick regarding her grandma. That's it. Well, okay, MAYBE Marie Rose also being unfamiliar with having a vacation. Not much else, however. Certainly none from the other girls.). And personally, I thought the interactions with the Owner were even worse in DOAX3 than they were in DOAXVV, especially the whole "live change" bits. At least DOAXVV limited the live change scenes to them being in the bathroom with it being implied that the girls invited them in. DOAX3 has the girls even stripping in front of the owner in a public place like the pool or the jungle with the only condition being that the owner close his eyes (which, quite frankly, I'm doubtful Itagaki would have approved due to it making the girls look extremely bad). And don't get me started on how they made some characters OOC (like Ayane trying to hunt down Kasumi. That characterization would have been perfect... had DOAX3 taken place during DOA2. Instead, having her hunt her half-sister down as if she were still targeted by the clan comes across as exceptionally out of character for her development by that time). At least in DOAXVV, her reasons for coming to the island clearly had nothing to do with Kasumi's status as a runaway ninja and taking her out.

As far as the whole "creep" factor, to be fair, some of the scenes are implied to not involve the owner at all. Not to mention, as I mentioned above, the creep factor was arguably even WORSE in DOAX3.

 

[Dionysus]

The interactions between girls are gone because they realised that, rather than use well-developed and relatable characters that naturally join in relationships that can be enjoyed as a slice of life fiction, it was easier to create a self-insert premise and assume player interest; and from there to exploit the sexual desires of the audience as mediated by the in game presence of the owner. This approach might make people buy the gacha, but it is creatively bankrupt.

 

[otnesse]

The interactions between girls are gone because they realised that, rather than use well-developed and relatable characters that naturally join in relationships that can be enjoyed as a slice of life fiction, it was easier to create a self-insert premise and assume player interest; and from there to exploit the sexual desires of the audience as mediated by the in game presence of the owner. This approach might make people buy the gacha, but it is creatively bankrupt.

DOAXVV I'll admit is a gacha, but DOAX3 isn't even CLOSE to a gacha. And quite frankly, whatever DOAXVV's flaws are, it's STILL a superior product to DOAX3 any day. And quite frankly, DOAXVV still had actual well-developed and relatable characters naturally joining in relationships that can be enjoyed as a slice of life fiction in various Event episodes and Main Episodes. Certainly DOAXVV did that far better than DOAX3 did. Granted, I'm still somewhat sad they haven't inserted be friendly gravures, but considering the rumors about the pole dance and adding in new gravures, they might do that (besides, Ayane for her second birthday episode seemed to suggest having two people interact with each other next time). And yes, there is some disappointing lack of focus on some characters, but even those at least received some needed development. Certainly more than in DOA6, anyway.

 

[hardseppo]

After seing how bad DoA6 performed, VV is still the cash-cow for TN. Monica debut brought the game to rank 1 again as well.

I want Rachel


[Eng] Helena Gravure Panel (White Illusion SSR) with lotions

[Eng] DoAX Venus Vacation :: Helena Gravure Panel (White Illusion SSR) with lotions

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[otnesse]

Well, going by what Proturret uncovered, we've got three girls left at most, provided Team Ninja doesn't add in more character slots in the future. All I can say is... let's hope we get more than three girls in the future, and more importantly, that they add in the cut girls. If they can add in Leifang, they can add in the others as well.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/494143156904919060/610823020059295744/unknown.png

 

[Onryoki]

TN’s character designs are the most uninspired ones I’ve ever seen in a video game. After DOA5 (with the exception of Marie Rose). We haven’t had a character that truly was original, all of them honestly look the same with different eye colours and wigs. With DOAXVV adding all these new girls you can really see how lazy they are with designing characters. The worst thing is that you otaku’s/perverts/fans let them get away with it by designing lazy characters. So they keep doing this.

 

[otnesse]

TN’s character designs are the most uninspired ones I’ve ever seen in a video game. After DOA5 (with the exception of Marie Rose). We haven’t had a character that truly was original, all of them honestly look the same with different eye colours and wigs. With DOAXVV adding all these new girls you can really see how lazy they are with designing characters. The worst thing is that you otaku’s/perverts/fans let them get away with it by designing lazy characters. So they keep doing this.

Hey, at least they're a LOT better designed than the characters from DOA6, with some mainstay characters looking sickly as a result (hard to believe that Ayane used to be second only to Tina regarding biggest chest size after looking at her in DOA6). I'd rather take a "lazily-designed" character than DOA6's designs. And at least the DOAXVV girls actually MATCH with their heights according to their bios (case in point, Monica from the event episodes almost towers over Kasumi). You want an actual lazy design? Look at Mai Shiranui and/or Kula Diamond's designs, where they couldn't even try to get their proportions right (Kula's supposed to be as tall as Helena, yet she comes across as being as short as Marie Rose, and Mai Shiranui's supposed to be shorter than Kasumi). Heck, forget TN games, I've seen far lazier designs in other series, like Peace Walker, for example (I'm sorry, but Portable Ops attempted to give more actual variety to the soldier designs than Peace Walker did, where there are four body types total, five including Big Boss, and that was DESPITE having thousands of Mother Base faces to sort out. They could have at least made nine to take into account dark-skinned members due to there being plenty of them based on the portraits).

Besides, what I care about is that they add in the cut girls, first and foremost. In fact, if anything, I'm actually getting a bit annoyed with their ignoring the cut girls besides Leifang. Just give us Tina, Mila, Rachel, Christie, and Lisa, dang it!! Right now, I'm only barely tolerating Kanna and Monica because the former at least has the possibility of sharing the same birthday as Nyotengu, which would point to a Tina appearance down the line, and the latter at least is bringing in a new gameplay mechanic with her in the form of the casino. Well, new to DOAXVV, anyways. That, and with the latter, she at least got DOAXVV back up to the #1 slot on DMM.

 

[Onryoki]

Hey, at least they're a LOT better designed than the characters from DOA6, with some mainstay characters looking sickly as a result (hard to believe that Ayane used to be second only to Tina regarding biggest chest size after looking at her in DOA6). I'd rather take a "lazily-designed" character than DOA6's designs. And at least the DOAXVV girls actually MATCH with their heights according to their bios (case in point, Monica from the event episodes almost towers over Kasumi). You want an actual lazy design? Look at Mai Shiranui and/or Kula Diamond's designs, where they couldn't even try to get their proportions right (Kula's supposed to be as tall as Helena, yet she comes across as being as short as Marie Rose, and Mai Shiranui's supposed to be shorter than Kasumi). Heck, forget TN games, I've seen far lazier designs in other series, like Peace Walker, for example (I'm sorry, but Portable Ops attempted to give more actual variety to the soldier designs than Peace Walker did, where there are four body types total, five including Big Boss, and that was DESPITE having thousands of Mother Base faces to sort out. They could have at least made nine to take into account dark-skinned members due to there being plenty of them based on the portraits).

Besides, what I care about is that they add in the cut girls, first and foremost. In fact, if anything, I'm actually getting a bit annoyed with their ignoring the cut girls besides Leifang. Just give us Tina, Mila, Rachel, Christie, and Lisa, dang it!! Right now, I'm only barely tolerating Kanna and Monica because the former at least has the possibility of sharing the same birthday as Nyotengu, which would point to a Tina appearance down the line, and the latter at least is bringing in a new gameplay mechanic with her in the form of the casino. Well, new to DOAXVV, anyways. That, and with the latter, she at least got DOAXVV back up to the #1 slot on DMM.

I said everybody after 5 with the exception of Marie rose. Maybe you should read things twice before you start quoting.

 

[otnesse]

I said everybody after 5 with the exception of Marie rose. Maybe you should read things twice before you start quoting.

Yeah, and the DOAXVV girls are after 5 as well, yet you seem to be singling out the DOAXVV girls.

 

[Jadeinchains]

Add Lisa, This game is severely lacking the best girl. Plus she'd add diversity to the cast of the game considering people are having a problem with all the new characters getting added looking/feeling the same.