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remember MGSV: Ground Zeroes? that demo that Konami had the balls to charge $40 but everyone went along with it because "well, it's Kojima, he's always doing wacky stuff", how did we let that shit slide at all??? I feel like if any publisher tried something like that today they'd be burned at the stake
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Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
I also remember Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. Paid demos are icky, but people were really itching for GT5 in 2008 and MGS5 in 2014. Though, could you imagine if Cyberpunk 2077 had a paid demo in 2019?
inochinagi
inochinagi
Back in 2010 there was also Dead Rising 2: Case Zero which released on Xbox 360's XBLA for $4.99 a few days before Dead Rising 2 and doubled as a mini-prequel. I enjoyed it. I thought it was pretty meaty for a $4.99 1-day game and I actually replayed it a few times.
Camel with 2 thumbs
Camel with 2 thumbs
holy cow I actually remember Dead Rising 2: Case Zero, I remember being confused because I thought it was the full game but then I saw the $5 price tag

but yeah I can see game franchises of a certain caliber being able to get away with this nonstandard practice, but I feel like this is exactly the type of rabbit hole thinking that leads us to $90 first party Nintendo games
Just saw this posting earlier:
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Really appalling to see people trying to scalp copies of Clair Obscur: Expedition 33. Please do not buy from them.
Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
^ For sure. I feel that. It's also a big matter of how much Rockstar will want to support physical copies, but I'll assume GTAVI will have probably 10's of millions of physical copies to not stifle sales or momentum. CO:E33 not having physical copies available is actually stifling its sales slightly despite selling over 2 million copies already.
UpSideDownGRUNT
UpSideDownGRUNT
Yeah, I can see that a lot of people still prefer physical in general even though digital is more mainstream nowadays. so not having physical copies around can stifle some sales yeah.

I assume GTA6 will still have physical copies even if not all the game is on disc just because the player base is still there but they WILL sell out fast for sure.
Uberprinny
Uberprinny
The clerk might say its U.S. price to justify it if this was in a local store! If thats the case, sales tax doesnt apply. XP
welp, with MK1 no longer being supported, every1's speculating about the next NRS game, which is either going to be Injustice 3 or that rumored MCU fighting game, but given how WB is more interested in turning all their games into live service store fronts, I don't even want to think about what their future fighting games will look like under the current WB model :/
DOA5 was the perfect blend of everything DOA players wanted along with esports. So I don’t understand the “don’t try to fit in with the esports crowd” argument. It’s so stupid it’s hard to entertain.
Again, Since We've Didn't Get Uruha Rushia, Ryoki and Yukino In Azur Lane, But At Least We've Get Honoka, Marie Rose, and Even Momo Belia Deviluke In Azur Lane. But I'm Still Very Happy, Right? :)
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Fighting games are hard to make. That’s why MK is dead after two years. Gamers have “give me the next one” mentality which is a selfish and disposable way of thinking. I played Goldeneye five years straight and didn’t fuss.
deathofaninja
deathofaninja
Your first comment just felt like a reason to jump in to the censorship debate which has very little to do with the difficulties of making a fighting game, and you act like we are on different sides from that perspective and we’re not. I personally hate the unrealistic MK models. Sonya really needs to eat a sandwich.
deathofaninja
deathofaninja
As far as gamers being selfish… well they are and it has become the standard over time. Of course I am mainly talking about MP games not SG story modes (which still take years to make). Older games didn’t need daily challenges to keep being played.
Uberprinny
Uberprinny
My friend from steam was right! Fighting games nowadays has become fifa and other sports game titles. Sure it takes time to make but does it justify the bare minimum effort for maximum gain?
Mortal Kombat 1 Definitive Edition was a missed opportunity at being called "Mortal Kombat 1: And Done Edition". It's less of a mouthful, and everyone can relate to one-and-dones.
Camel with 2 thumbs
Camel with 2 thumbs
Mortal Kombat 1 Pump Chump Edition

cause thats all the effort NRS was willing to put into this game :/

I joke but it does bother me that MK1 will end being less favorable than MK11, a game that I truly think was low effort and yet made all the money and dominated all the tournaments when it was active
Awesmic
Awesmic
There's at least one saving grace in all this... I'll never be shy of lewd costumes and skins for Ashrah.

That was the one thing that kept me going casually.
samuraihachi
samuraihachi
I actually picked up the game too recently and got KP 1 and 2 for a huge discount. Sucks to see the game end support so soon, as the gameplay is pretty fun and there's way too many classic characters missing/not playable.
dam, I thought MK1 was done and dusted, but then NRS puts this out
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Camel with 2 thumbs
Camel with 2 thumbs
that said, this is pretty much just MK1 with new skins and all the DLC bundled together at a more reasonable price, not bad but this does mean no more balance patches or system changes, so the version of MK1 we have now is pretty much it
Yuffie
Yuffie
Guess the leaks of no KP3 were real after all.
Shame since Khaos Expansion must not have met expectations.
Then again, NR has done a complete edition for MK and IN.
Haven't played this game btw, I only heard it wasn't as good as the others. Seems 11 had more support.
Camel with 2 thumbs
Camel with 2 thumbs
11 definitely got more support, that said 11 catered way harder to the casual market so naturally it had a longer lifespan, MK1 imo has superior gameplay but it fumbled on basic stuff like online modes and training options, and the assist mechanic did not go well with the casual playerbase, and unfortunately casuals carry MK


This Christie RQd! Which makes me question. There are people who claimed that their character is higher in the leaderboards than they should. Its been on the rise lately. I call it false advertising. >.<
back when DOA6 came out one thing I complained about was how Nyo was given all these fancy new tools but none of them fixed her core issues, but now that I've being playing DOA5 a lot recently, I think I have to retroactively eat my words
Uberprinny
Uberprinny
Camel. All I want is a 360T command spd instead of a 1T! Thats all. I have been wishing for this since the Nyo Geo first came out as dlc! Its not fair! Bass has Victory Bomb, Bass Bomber, and F5! While Ryu has Izuna Drop and P+K, PP, 360T! Hayate has....well...HE IS HAYATE! >.<
Camel with 2 thumbs
Camel with 2 thumbs
the fact that her piledriver is a low throw is very weird, definitely gives it less use cases than other characters pile driver, but it made more sense back in ultimate when it a 2T command and was i7, but then Last round came out and now it's a 1T command and has 3 more frames of start up, granted she now has proper i5 2T like everyone else but the animation is nowhere near as cool :(
Uberprinny
Uberprinny
Her sumo stomp and 46P+K has more uses than her spd! X.x
Seems like this year was a great start for new games... and remasters. If there are any GOOD Gears of War players, I'm looking for one last partner for Reloaded online.
deathofaninja
deathofaninja
Sealed the gap on this matter. Full team established. If you would like to join in as a substitute feel free to PM me.
Camel with 2 thumbs
Camel with 2 thumbs
so you're going through the throws by using the stat up frames of the kick cancel and then punishing the throw attempt, did I get that right?
DestructionBomb
DestructionBomb
@Camel with 2 thumbs It's because of DOA's system where the input of an attack is still considered attacking while dodging the throw. Only benefit is if they went for the attack, you can block in time. OHs diminished the trick however which makes sense.

The Jacky one with Tina however, I genuinely do not know lol.
What an awesome startup for VF6. Please add a DOA character into the game Sega.
deathofaninja
deathofaninja
I think they could pull something spectacular off with Kasumi or Ayane, and I don't think they would choose Hayabusa if I was to really engage with the hypothetical; he seems a bit too similar to Kage and Master doesn't think Hayabusa would work in other fighting games outside of DOA.
I’ve had a few people ask me what my rebuttal to Emery will be and the real truth is I don’t have a problem with him, I have admiration for what he does.
deathofaninja
deathofaninja
I felt like he overdid it with Crazy and I felt like I issued the same sort of response to defend him. Unless things are taken to the next level I have no rebuttal for Emery. Otherwise let’s move on and continue to support the game.
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